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stlliberator 10-29-2015 07:54 PM

311 prop help..
 
Looking to try 4 blades. Boat is a 89 with 330s. Its got the stock 23 mirage 3 blades. So should I go too a 22 pitch bravo? Or should I go too a 24 pitch?

rexcramer1 10-30-2015 08:23 AM

Depends on what rpm you are getting with the 23s. Your current props probably have a lot of slip. That will decrease with four blades. 22s will keep about the same rpm at WOT, or maybe increase a few. 24's will drop rpms by about 200

stlliberator 10-30-2015 04:04 PM

Well honestly I don't know what rpm I turn with the 23s...haven't had the boat in the water yet. The 23s are chewed up..so looking at new prop options. I've never had luck with 3 blades on any boat I've owned so I'm just going to go with 4 blades on this one too. I believe the mirages are stock props on a 311..

rexcramer1 10-30-2015 05:06 PM

Yeah my boat came with mirages and they suck. Running 23" Rev4's now and love them, but they run about the same as a 24 Bravo. I think your boat should run low 60s if its a Bravo boat. Go with 24's since 330s don't like a lot of rpms

Mr Maine 10-30-2015 09:27 PM

Let us know your results. I had a 272 with 330s, 64 to 65 with 25 mirage non plus at about 45-4600. I cruised at 50 though at about 35-3600 which was great.

Formula311-SR1 10-31-2015 08:45 PM

Hydromotive 22 or 24s depending on RPMs.
Our 89 worked great with the 24s. I had best luck with stock out of the box props.
Still have my backup 24s if you are interested.

stlliberator 11-01-2015 07:25 AM

Did your boat have 330s in it? What mph you get? Spin in or out?
Price on props?

Formula311-SR1 11-01-2015 09:01 PM

Bought them from a 311 owner with stock 330s, he went 64
I had some work done on my 330s and would go 67.1 @ 5000 with stock 24s turning out.
For reference even used the same props with 502 mags later and went 72 @ 5300
I'll message you

stlliberator 11-02-2015 05:30 PM

What work you have done to your your 330s...

Formula311-SR1 11-02-2015 06:37 PM

Cams intakes and carbs

stlliberator 11-02-2015 06:44 PM

Do you remember your cruise speed and rpm!

rexcramer1 11-02-2015 07:06 PM

With 330s you should be looking for 40-45mph cruise at about 3500 rpms. Expect low 60s for top end if you have Bravo drives

Formula311-SR1 11-02-2015 08:29 PM

Been a while since I upgraded, but that sounds about right. Cruise speed and planning were the best benefits with the hydros

stlliberator 11-09-2015 06:58 PM

Hey tried to send you a pm but your box is full...

Formula311-SR1 11-10-2015 07:18 PM

Sorry, PM box is cleaned out now

bajacountry 12-23-2015 09:33 AM

Formula, I have a 1990 311. Came with 330's and 22p bravo's. Went low 60's. Upgraded to 502 MPI's and threw on a pair of used 24p bravos's. The thing porpoises like a banshee and I only get about 66. I've been told to go with the Hydromotives for more stern lift and that my 24p Bravo's could be bad. Thoughts?

Car Biz 12-23-2015 10:13 AM


Originally Posted by bajacountry (Post 4387586)
Formula, I have a 1990 311. Came with 330's and 22p bravo's. Went low 60's. Upgraded to 502 MPI's and threw on a pair of used 24p bravos's. The thing porpoises like a banshee and I only get about 66. I've been told to go with the Hydromotives for more stern lift and that my 24p Bravo's could be bad. Thoughts?

Have you tried a 25 Mirage?

kevlar382 12-24-2015 08:06 AM

I've had two 311s and if you are turning your props out like it came from the factory, I found that 4 blades picked the back end up a little to much and made them bow steer. Your X dimension is low enough that you shouldn't need a 4 blade. Both of mine came with 23s and I changed them to Lab 25s. Sorry it's been a long time time, but if I remember right my 1988 with 330s ran 66 at 4800 rpm. They both had 1.5 Bravos. If you want to run 4 blades, you might want to try turning them in.

TylerBurich 12-24-2015 10:44 AM


Originally Posted by Car Biz (Post 4387595)
Have you tried a 25 Mirage?

Find some 25 mirage non plusses

rexcramer1 12-24-2015 09:34 PM


Originally Posted by 454captiva (Post 4387885)
Find some 25 mirage non plusses

Have you tried both? On my hull which is pretty similar the Plusses were MUCH better than the standard Mirage, not as good as the Rev4's though.
Standard Mirage for me blew out very easily getting on plane and cruise speed sucked

dba1062 12-25-2015 10:51 AM

Kevlar382 is correct on the RPM's and speed as I owned his old 88 311. Another friend of mine with same boat ran 24p hydromotives 4blades. Slower top end speeds but better cruising speed. I still have the 25's Mirage non plus and thinking about selling them as I sold the boat. Keep them as a spares after I re-powered the boat.

kevlar382 12-27-2015 08:22 AM


Originally Posted by dba1062 (Post 4388087)
Kevlar382 is correct on the RPM's and speed as I owned his old 88 311. Another friend of mine with same boat ran 24p hydromotives 4blades. Slower top end speeds but better cruising speed. I still have the 25's Mirage non plus and thinking about selling them as I sold the boat. Keep them as a spares after I re-powered the boat.

Dave, where did the boat end up. I like to keep track of my old ones. If you ever talk to him please give him my number so I can help him out if he has any questions. Did you get a 382? Hope you have a Happy New Year..

stlliberator 01-05-2016 04:07 PM


Originally Posted by kevlar382 (Post 4387844)
I've had two 311s and if you are turning your props out like it came from the factory, I found that 4 blades picked the back end up a little to much and made them bow steer. Your X dimension is low enough that you shouldn't need a 4 blade. Both of mine came with 23s and I changed them to Lab 25s. Sorry it's been a long time time, but if I remember right my 1988 with 330s ran 66 at 4800 rpm. They both had 1.5 Bravos. If you want to run 4 blades, you might want to try turning them in.

It ran 66 on gps?? That's damn good for 330s...

stlliberator 02-11-2016 07:16 PM

So anyone else have input on 4 blade hydromotives?


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