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TomZ 02-19-2016 08:20 PM

Speaker placement - 242LS
 
I did some searching and found some older posts, but I thought I'd start a new thread...

My 242LS has all the old factory audio components in it... they're being replaced. Here's what I have to go in the boat as of now:

Kenwood DDX head unit
Alpine PDX-5M 5-channel digital amp (rated at 75Wx4, 300x1, birth sheet shows 125x4, 410x1)
Alpine SPR-M700 Type-R 7-inch 2-way speakers (4)

Haven't picked subs yet.

My thought was to replace the forward cockpit speakers as well as add the other pair right behind the glass at the rear bench; if they'll fit. The cabin will get some Pioneer 6.5's that I have hanging around, and they'll be run straight off the head unit (I'm happy with quiet sound in the cabin).

What about the subs? I was thinking about adding subs to the bench panel (and making a sealed box internal to the bench compartment), or maybe some shallow-mount subs to go inside thin boxes inside the gunwale storage areas.

This is a swivel chair boat... no bolsters. What have the rest of you done? Looking forgot sound; no need to have everyone jamming off my tunes.

Thanks!

TomZ 02-20-2016 08:19 PM

Anyone?

1MOSES1 02-21-2016 01:33 PM

Definitely build boxes under the bench seat if that's where you plan to mount subs. We put in 2 10" woofers on our 292 fastech under the bench without boxes. It didn't sound good at all. In terms of subwoofer brand. Sky is the limit. Could put in jl audio. Or keep it as cheap as Rockford fosgate.

masi242 02-21-2016 02:08 PM

I am thinking of putting i a new head unit in, so i can play my music off my phone, just have and old cd player i put in years ago. I just don't know a lot about stereo systems just want something simple.

TomZ 02-21-2016 05:46 PM

I was at Best Buy a month ago and saw that they now have head units that manage USB/Bluetooth devices only. No CD or AM/FM. If I can remember correctly, I think it was a Pioneer that I saw, and it was inexpensive. Might be a good piece of equipment for a boat. I'm using the Kenwood because I have it, and it'll play video via either the built-in 6" display or a separate LED monitor (for overnighting with the kids and such). If I needed a new HU, I'd be very interested in it.

Here's the Pioneer:

http://www.pioneerelectronics.com/PU...ers/MVH-X370BT

Anyway, something to think about.

TomZ 02-22-2016 07:06 AM


Originally Posted by 1MOSES1 (Post 4406717)
Definitely build boxes under the bench seat if that's where you plan to mount subs. We put in 2 10" woofers on our 292 fastech under the bench without boxes. It didn't sound good at all. In terms of subwoofer brand. Sky is the limit. Could put in jl audio. Or keep it as cheap as Rockford fosgate.

Is it then recommended to put the subs in the bench? I like the stowage there, and building boxes will take up good, usable space.

I was thinking I could stuff boxes inside the gunwale panels, but in unsure of what will fit in there. It's space that I don't really use out side of holding life jackets so seems doable.

Another option would be a single 12 somewhere, with the emphasis on "where."

distantthunder 02-22-2016 10:20 AM

TomZ,

I have a USB/BT head unit mounted in the "glove box", Two huge 6x9's Under the rear seat, and two 6.5" on each side in the front of the cock pit. There are upgraded speakers in the cuddy and I have a 6 Channel amp mounted upside down on the bottom side of the cuddy step. The cuddy speakers run off the head unit (4 x 50 Watt) through a 4PST toggle switch next to the head unit so I can turn them off when not in use. The cockpit speakers run off of the amplifier and I will be also adding a 10" under the rear bench this spring. I am currently looking at an "infinite baffle" subwoofer which does not require a box but I have read mixed reviews on that type and also a standard marine 10" with a box built behind it. The sub will be run of the bridged 5th and 6th channel on my amp as it is currently unused.

TomZ 02-23-2016 06:57 AM

The infinite baffle sub needs to have the front separated from the rear. I think the seat would leak causing the sound to be a little muddy.

I think I might go this way...

http://www.crutchfield.com/S-aYZ0res...-R2S-1X10.html

The link is to a Rockford 10-inch shallow mount in its own box. If they'll fit inside the gunwale storage areas, they'll work.

distantthunder 02-23-2016 07:17 AM


Originally Posted by TomZ (Post 4407322)
The infinite baffle sub needs to have the front separated from the rear. I think the seat would leak causing the sound to be a little muddy.

I think I might go this way...

http://www.crutchfield.com/S-aYZ0res...-R2S-1X10.html

The link is to a Rockford 10-inch shallow mount in its own box. If they'll fit inside the gunwale storage areas, they'll work.

I am going to have a fiberglass enclosure on the backside on the sub to prevent that. Those Rockford 10's sound nice, I installed a pair in my friends Crew Cab Duramax last year. Should work out well in the gunwale.

1MOSES1 02-23-2016 11:28 AM


Originally Posted by TomZ (Post 4407322)
The infinite baffle sub needs to have the front separated from the rear. I think the seat would leak causing the sound to be a little muddy.

I think I might go this way...

http://www.crutchfield.com/S-aYZ0res...-R2S-1X10.html

The link is to a Rockford 10-inch shallow mount in its own box. If they'll fit inside the gunwale storage areas, they'll work.

Everything you said is accurate...which is why the under the bench seat option is only good with sealed boxes.

Matjluk 02-25-2016 02:44 PM


Originally Posted by TomZ (Post 4407322)
The infinite baffle sub needs to have the front separated from the rear. I think the seat would leak causing the sound to be a little muddy.

I think I might go this way...

http://www.crutchfield.com/S-aYZ0res...-R2S-1X10.html

The link is to a Rockford 10-inch shallow mount in its own box. If they'll fit inside the gunwale storage areas, they'll work.

I bought 10 " mtx subs for my 242 and they are too big , matter of fact I was drinking one night and bought an entire system for the boat , subs , amps speakers head unit, any way put 2 speakers in and can't hear em over the motor never installed the rest . This year I'm just gonna use a Bluetooth portable speaker I got from Bose for like 180$ thing is loud sounds good a don't have to worry about batteries dying !

TomZ 02-25-2016 03:18 PM


Originally Posted by Matjluk (Post 4408453)
I bought 10 " mtx subs for my 242 and they are too big , matter of fact I was drinking one night and bought an entire system for the boat , subs , amps speakers head unit, any way put 2 speakers in and can't hear em over the motor never installed the rest . This year I'm just gonna use a Bluetooth portable speaker I got from Bose for like 180$ thing is loud sounds good a don't have to worry about batteries dying !

LOL... I hear you on "impulse buy" thing!

I have the Bose for use in my bedroom, and when cooking on the patio. It does okay, but it does not do all that well on the boat. Just sayin',

TomZ 02-25-2016 03:19 PM

Final configuration:

Head Unit and Amp

Pioneer MVH-X370BT Media Receiver

Alpine PDX-5M Digital Amplfier

Cockpit

(4) Alpine Type-R SPR-M700, 7-inch 2-way speaker

- two in the forward cockpit
- two in the rear bench
- both installed with baffles

(2) Polk Audio DB1040DVC, 10-inch subwoofer

- 12x19x7 inch enclosures, 1/2-inch MDF, fiberglass'd for strength, .60 CF plus .5 lbs poly-fill
- installed one each inside gunwale storage areas

Cabin

(2) Alpine Type-R SPR-M700, 7-inch two-way speaker

- powered by the head unit
- toggle switch to turn off amp when cockpit not in use

----

The biggest pain will be getting the subs inside the gunwales. We may need to take apart the panels in order to make it happen. We shall see! Regardless, it should sound very good once we're all done. Installation will start in the next couple of weeks. More to come!

distantthunder 02-25-2016 03:22 PM

Sounds like a great setup TomZ, I would love to see it/hear it when its done whenever I return to the area! Are you going to leave the gunwale storage doors open while riding?

TomZ 02-25-2016 06:47 PM


Originally Posted by distantthunder (Post 4408469)
Sounds like a great setup TomZ, I would love to see it/hear it when its done whenever I return to the area! Are you going to leave the gunwale storage doors open while riding?

The boxes will reside inside the gunwales so there will be some experimentation. I'm hoping that it won't matter too much having the doors slid open or now. I'll definitely open them up when we're beached/docked/rafted-up. I don't keep much of anything in there anyway... some life jackets and flares. Everything else goes under the bench or in the storage bins on the sides of the engine.


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