Ideas for cooling down 292 engine compartment
07-31-2016, 07:47 PM
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Revspan - Very interesting topic and thanks for sharing your findings so far. I was in our 292 yesterday and took a few pictures of the stock flame arrestor to add to your thread. Does yours look the same?
My engines are 2006 6.2 liter MPI's with no cats. I plan to try and get temperature measurements with hatch closed plus open some and will add to the thread for comparison. Curious, where are you putting the 2X4's for running with the hatch cracked?
I was looking at how the engine compartment is ventilated and mine is the same as you described. Like you said there definitely is room for improvement. I like your idea about ducting cooler air to directly feed close to the flame arrestor.
Good stuff and looking forward to reading how your new flame arrestors work out!
My engines are 2006 6.2 liter MPI's with no cats. I plan to try and get temperature measurements with hatch closed plus open some and will add to the thread for comparison. Curious, where are you putting the 2X4's for running with the hatch cracked?
I was looking at how the engine compartment is ventilated and mine is the same as you described. Like you said there definitely is room for improvement. I like your idea about ducting cooler air to directly feed close to the flame arrestor.
Good stuff and looking forward to reading how your new flame arrestors work out!
I'm am thinking, so be careful. LOL.
Could you measure the diameter of the element itself ?
07-31-2016, 08:09 PM
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Camping over the weeked.
I am following for your ideas on getting more air into the compartment. More cold air. I was into drag racing years ago and spoke to an on boat guy years ago aboit a cold air intake system and he thought I was wasting my time.....
I am following for your ideas on getting more air into the compartment. More cold air. I was into drag racing years ago and spoke to an on boat guy years ago aboit a cold air intake system and he thought I was wasting my time.....
07-31-2016, 08:18 PM
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So, don't waste his time.
Waste ours.
Waste ours.
08-01-2016, 11:27 AM
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I was doing some searching on components that may help design another system for these and noticed K&N has two FA's with 3.75" flange ID's.
Anyone try one of these ?
K&N 59-5005 (no pcv vent): http://www.knfilters.com/search/prod...x?prod=59-5005
K&N 59-5006 ( 1 pcv vent) http://www.knfilters.com/search/prod...x?prod=59-5006
Both have only 3/4" flange height, so don't know if it will clear things or not.
So, before spending alot more time on finding pieces to make something, can someone confirm if these will work or not ?
Anyone try one of these ?
K&N 59-5005 (no pcv vent): http://www.knfilters.com/search/prod...x?prod=59-5005
K&N 59-5006 ( 1 pcv vent) http://www.knfilters.com/search/prod...x?prod=59-5006
Both have only 3/4" flange height, so don't know if it will clear things or not.
So, before spending alot more time on finding pieces to make something, can someone confirm if these will work or not ?
08-01-2016, 01:03 PM
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Dave, those are the same as mine....just imagine a log exchanger in front, cats on either side and hoses to all of it. But, the solution for the arrestor will be the same, as the layout and clearances should be common.
I got a mock up today of piping that will work in the starboard side. Gonna stare at it, test it and maybe convert to 4" aluminum intercooler piping with silicone couplings. Just need to see what the FA ends up looking like, and then make it look professional. The piping layout I made has a nice dip in it too, to make sure there is kind of a p-trap in case water got in it. Drill a small hole in the bottom and it should be good.
I can't. Post pictures, but if you shoot me a pm with your email, I will show you what I am working on.
Oh... And the shelves for the Bimini top had to be removed. Nice for storage, but is a huge obstacle to get around. For now, they are on the garage shelf.
I got a mock up today of piping that will work in the starboard side. Gonna stare at it, test it and maybe convert to 4" aluminum intercooler piping with silicone couplings. Just need to see what the FA ends up looking like, and then make it look professional. The piping layout I made has a nice dip in it too, to make sure there is kind of a p-trap in case water got in it. Drill a small hole in the bottom and it should be good.
I can't. Post pictures, but if you shoot me a pm with your email, I will show you what I am working on.
Oh... And the shelves for the Bimini top had to be removed. Nice for storage, but is a huge obstacle to get around. For now, they are on the garage shelf.
I am looking forward to see how the new flame arrestors and experimenting with these ideas help with performance. Keep up the creative thinking and testing!
08-01-2016, 01:07 PM
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IS that ducting 4" ?
08-01-2016, 01:26 PM
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The ducting is not allowing for more air, merely re-directing it correct? It looks like the natural flow (stock) is around the inside of the combing. I wonder if adding a baffle inside the combing to re-direct the air where you want it may be just as effective. Blowing around the inside of the combing does not look optimal. Just a thought.
08-01-2016, 01:30 PM
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Here are some pictures of Kai's mock-up for the cool air induction idea. I'm sure he will jump in to comment and/or answer questions.
I am looking forward to see how the new flame arrestors and experimenting with these ideas help with performance. Keep up the creative thinking and testing!
I am looking forward to see how the new flame arrestors and experimenting with these ideas help with performance. Keep up the creative thinking and testing!
Dave
08-01-2016, 06:02 PM
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I actually think that the K&N filter could work. The throat on the TB is 3.5", but that is easily made up with a small spacer(K&N is 3.75"). The three studs that hold the FA down would be an issue as two of them would not let the FA seat on the TB. You could eliminate the studs, but I would not want to trust the hose clamp to hold the FA on the TB without something helping it. The flange on the TB is only about 0.5" high, so the clamp land would be pretty small. I think you would open the engine compartment and see the FA rolling around without something added to help it stay put.
I got a hold of the OEM flame arrestor company today, and they are looking into making one that should fit. The ones I ordered ended up being out of stock..just my luck. Hopefully, they can make something that will work right out of the box.
COOPS, do you have the PN for the arrestor you have? Getting them started with this info would help a ton. I gather that Barbron is out of business, but they sold it to another company in Michigan which I found. They are willing to help, I just need some more information to help get them started. If it can be customized, it would be great to even make the cleaner larger in height as there is space.
I got a hold of the OEM flame arrestor company today, and they are looking into making one that should fit. The ones I ordered ended up being out of stock..just my luck. Hopefully, they can make something that will work right out of the box.
COOPS, do you have the PN for the arrestor you have? Getting them started with this info would help a ton. I gather that Barbron is out of business, but they sold it to another company in Michigan which I found. They are willing to help, I just need some more information to help get them started. If it can be customized, it would be great to even make the cleaner larger in height as there is space.
