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billpor930 08-12-2016 04:27 PM

The 353 handles some chop
 
Had the 353 out in the ocean yesterday between Corsons inlet and the Great Egg inlet off New Jersey. I was running 40 - 50 mph in 5 footers and the boat handled it well, in about 20 knots of wind.

1MOSES1 08-13-2016 06:10 PM


Originally Posted by billpor930 (Post 4470349)
Had the 353 out in the ocean yesterday between Corsons inlet and the Great Egg inlet off New Jersey. I was running 40 - 50 mph in 5 footers and the boat handled it well, in about 20 knots of wind.

5 footers? our top gun has trouble in 5's and it's a true 38' with a lot more weight.

billpor930 08-14-2016 01:29 PM


Originally Posted by 1MOSES1 (Post 4470633)
5 footers? our top gun has trouble in 5's and it's a true 38' with a lot more weight.

Trough to crest, 5 feet. It's all in knowing how to trim and what speed to go.

1MOSES1 08-14-2016 03:48 PM


Originally Posted by billpor930 (Post 4470821)
Trough to crest, 5 feet. It's all in knowing how to trim and what speed to go.

That's a 2.5' wave.

class6 08-14-2016 05:50 PM

I would love to have seen that! how far did you get?

314joey 08-14-2016 06:00 PM

Sounds like a normal Summer Saturday afternoon.

Back4More 08-15-2016 04:24 PM

I'm going to be honest that I'm still getting used to my 353. Rides nothing even close to my old straight bottom 42 Fountain. Doesn't like any tab like the 42 unless I'm going real slow trying to stay on plane. So tabs full up and only maybe a little on one side or the other to level boat due to weight or wind. As far as trimming out... I get the drives about halfway and that's it. Starts to throw a rooster tail, rpm climbs and speed doesn't change. Had the water tank full and it really was noticeable. It did not like that either. So I was out yesterday and once up on plane drives 1/3 to 1/2 out and that's the best ride I was able to find.

billpor930 08-16-2016 04:39 AM


Originally Posted by 1MOSES1 (Post 4470858)
That's a 2.5' wave.

Wrong again. In fluid dynamics, the wave height of a surface wave is the difference between the elevations of a crest and a neighbouring trough

badmonkey 08-16-2016 04:52 AM

Not trying to be rude, but a guy comes on and just shares that he went for a ride in what he seems to think were 5' waves...Without video coverage or monitoring station reports, what the hell does it matter if they were 5' or 2.5'??? This is the dumbest freakin babble back and forth I've ever read on this site. Is there at anytime that someone can just NOT have to act like an idiot and just enjoy a thread for what was written???? Yes, am I tired of the "oh, I'm the biggest guy in the room" mentality....Damn right I am. There is so much more BAD SH*T going on in this world that just maybe we ought to keep our sites on what is important and not the constant badgering of stupidity.....

billpor930 08-16-2016 03:47 PM


Originally Posted by 314joey (Post 4470881)
Sounds like a normal Summer Saturday afternoon.

Yes, not unusual, a little more wind than normal.

billpor930 08-16-2016 03:48 PM


Originally Posted by badmonkey (Post 4471444)
Not trying to be rude, but a guy comes on and just shares that he went for a ride in what he seems to think were 5' waves...Without video coverage or monitoring station reports, what the hell does it matter if they were 5' or 2.5'??? This is the dumbest freakin babble back and forth I've ever read on this site. Is there at anytime that someone can just NOT have to act like an idiot and just enjoy a thread for what was written???? Yes, am I tired of the "oh, I'm the biggest guy in the room" mentality....Damn right I am. There is so much more BAD SH*T going on in this world that just maybe we ought to keep our sites on what is important and not the constant badgering of stupidity.....

I agree.

billpor930 08-16-2016 03:57 PM


Originally Posted by class6 (Post 4470879)
I would love to have seen that! how far did you get?

I got around the island of Ocean City,I went out Corsons inlet on the South side and came in the Great Egg Inlet on the North side. I do this almost every time I go out, it was just a bit rougher than normal this time. I don't have a camera, at least not a waterproof one, and we were taking some serious spray over the bow. The distance between inlets in the ocean was roughly 7 miles.

badmonkey 08-16-2016 04:32 PM


Originally Posted by billpor930 (Post 4471722)
I got around the island of Ocean City,I went out Corsons inlet on the South side and came in the Great Egg Inlet on the North side. I do this almost every time I go out, it was just a bit rougher than normal this time. I don't have a camera, at least not a waterproof one, and we were taking some serious spray over the bow. The distance between inlets in the ocean was roughly 7 miles.

I so need to do that run...We get to experience the entire Chesapeake Bay but no ocean running...:angry-smiley-055:.. Sounds like a blast.

Chris

1MOSES1 08-16-2016 08:40 PM


Originally Posted by billpor930 (Post 4471442)
Wrong again. In fluid dynamics, the wave height of a surface wave is the difference between the elevations of a crest and a neighbouring trough

http://www.boatingmag.com/how-to/measuring-wave-height

1MOSES1 08-16-2016 08:44 PM


Originally Posted by badmonkey (Post 4471444)
Not trying to be rude, but a guy comes on and just shares that he went for a ride in what he seems to think were 5' waves...Without video coverage or monitoring station reports, what the hell does it matter if they were 5' or 2.5'??? This is the dumbest freakin babble back and forth I've ever read on this site. Is there at anytime that someone can just NOT have to act like an idiot and just enjoy a thread for what was written???? Yes, am I tired of the "oh, I'm the biggest guy in the room" mentality....Damn right I am. There is so much more BAD SH*T going on in this world that just maybe we ought to keep our sites on what is important and not the constant badgering of stupidity.....

This is how rumors and mis-information starts...just like the kid down the street that says he can maintain 60mph on his jet ski in 3-4's. but whatever...

370ss500efi 08-16-2016 08:48 PM


Originally Posted by billpor930 (Post 4471722)
I got around the island of Ocean City,I went out Corsons inlet on the South side and came in the Great Egg Inlet on the North side. I do this almost every time I go out, it was just a bit rougher than normal this time. I don't have a camera, at least not a waterproof one, and we were taking some serious spray over the bow. The distance between inlets in the ocean was roughly 7 miles.

I do the same run almost every wknd.

Audiofn 08-17-2016 05:11 AM

These threads never seem to end up well. Only a matter of time before some one shows up and tells us that the waves in the great lakes is worse... :-)

class6 08-17-2016 05:19 AM

http://youtu.be/5bm_pgPdOeA

314joey 08-17-2016 08:13 AM

Serious rollers at LOTO......................lol


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V9IdgSNfaWg

afratki 08-17-2016 08:34 AM


Originally Posted by billpor930 (Post 4471442)
Wrong again. In fluid dynamics, the wave height of a surface wave is the difference between the elevations of a crest and a neighboring trough



Originally Posted by 1MOSES1 (Post 4471856)

The article linked makes billpor's point, wave height is measured from trough to crest.

1MOSES1 08-17-2016 08:41 AM


Originally Posted by afratki (Post 4472020)
The article linked makes billpor's point, wave height is measured from trough to crest.

You should probably re-read the article. A wave measured 5' from trough to crest would be considered a 10 footer. So if he was in 5 footers they would be 2.5' waves.

From the Helm 08-17-2016 02:07 PM

Wave height is like fish stories, they are always up to the mind to recall with some precision, but who cares. It's fun to go out and test the boat and bang through some big waves.

Wave height is trough to crest, that's what the article says and it's how NOAA measures it. If you look, there's probably a weather buoy close by that would tell with some precision what the wave height is.

afratki 08-17-2016 04:50 PM


Originally Posted by 1MOSES1 (Post 4472022)
You should probably re-read the article. A wave measured 5' from trough to crest would be considered a 10 footer. So if he was in 5 footers they would be 2.5' waves.

I believe you're the one who needs to re-read it. The article talks about "perceptions", what people "perceive" as 6 footers are actually 3's. This does not change the fact that the "actual" wave height is measured from the trough to the crest.

RT930turbo 08-18-2016 03:50 PM

I love wave height discussions :popcorn:


Of course I'm always the guy that says it's only 1 footers, quit being a puzzy...then my microwave, fridge, and the wife's 17 suitcaeses end up on the cabin floor. Come to think of it, maybe my judgement is off :D

billpor930 08-18-2016 10:19 PM


Originally Posted by afratki (Post 4472252)
I believe you're the one who needs to re-read it. The article talks about "perceptions", what people "perceive" as 6 footers are actually 3's. This does not change the fact that the "actual" wave height is measured from the trough to the crest.

This is my understanding as well. Moses just wants to argue. By the way, I took the boat out wednesday for the 'Thunder over the boardwalk' air show at Atlantic City. Probably a couple hundred boats anchored out with us to watch. Good show. The seas were kind of choppy both going and coming and upon our arrival back in Great Egg Harbor bay we noticed that the Coast Guard had posted small craft warnings on their flag pole. I didn't go any faster than about 35 on the way back in.

RaggedEdge 08-19-2016 06:38 PM


Originally Posted by 1MOSES1 (Post 4472022)
You should probably re-read the article. A wave measured 5' from trough to crest would be considered a 10 footer. So if he was in 5 footers they would be 2.5' waves.


So if a 5 footer is really a 10 footer and a real 5 footer is only a 2.5 footer for you Formula guys , should I assume, as a Fountain guy, that a 5 footer is a 15 footer, Beak and platform factored in, and a real 5 footer is but a ripple in real terms. In these aforementioned cases anyFountain would smoke your Formula azz in all of the above mentioned cases assuming that a wave measured from trough to crest at 5 feet is considered to be real 10 footer. So if anyone in 5 footers would perhaps think their azz was in 2.5 footers.

thirdchildhood 08-19-2016 06:47 PM

Fives are twos on OSO! ;)

badmonkey 08-19-2016 07:52 PM

:whistle: :bong: are we at a Dead show?????.....Thanks Moses...:popcorn:


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