My 357 SR1- Not really a build thread
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I had a 1989 357 kamma boat. Had multiple issues with the kammas and trannys. One thing to always remember, if your tranny breaks, it locks in forward gear. Almost put my boat into a bridge the time it happened to me. Had a rear seal go out on a kamma and destroyed the gears, shafts, bearings, but not the casings. Local shop rebuilt with common parts. I would recommend replacing all the seals as those drives are old and rubber ages. You won't know there is a problem until its too late. I ended up adding standoff boxes with bravos. I had 502's with prochargers, probably putting our about 500-550 hp. Was able to get 70 mph on gps before I tuliped a valve. Ended up selling to a friend an buying a 1997 419 fastec. I agree with DoczDoc, the 357 has classic lines and is a beast in rough water. I do miss the boat, I looked like I was going 100 mph at 60 mph!! I would also recommend 4 blade props if you need to reprop the boat. much smoother, less vibration. When you are propping the boat, you can actually buy different ratio gear sets for these drives. I understand they were designed with just a few sizes of props and you would buy the gear sets (at a much lower cost than the props) to set speed and rpm. There is actually a Kamma prop made for the drives, but they are rare. Gear sets are 1:1, 8% and 13.5% if I remember. You go + or - % by where you put the gears on the input our output shafts. Kamma really thought about a lot of things when they developed the drive. I have also heard they are good to about 800 hp, but the twin disc is the weak link on hp. Not sure how much they can take. Anyway, look forward to following your build and reminiscing about my 357 kamma. Sweet boat!
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Congrats on the boat. The 357 is a great boat! Classic offshore profile/lines. I had a 1989 272 with 454 (330 HP) and Bravo drives. Went right around 62 MPH. Moved up to a 1989 357 with the 420 HP and TRS drives. Still went right around 62 MPH.... didn't gain any speed but what an improvement on the ride! I now have a 1997 382 with 500 HP and Bravo's. Wife still misses the 357. Still like the profile of the 357 better....
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I had a 1989 357 kamma boat. Had multiple issues with the kammas and trannys. One thing to always remember, if your tranny breaks, it locks in forward gear. Almost put my boat into a bridge the time it happened to me. Had a rear seal go out on a kamma and destroyed the gears, shafts, bearings, but not the casings. Local shop rebuilt with common parts. I would recommend replacing all the seals as those drives are old and rubber ages. You won't know there is a problem until its too late. I ended up adding standoff boxes with bravos. I had 502's with prochargers, probably putting our about 500-550 hp. Was able to get 70 mph on gps before I tuliped a valve. Ended up selling to a friend an buying a 1997 419 fastec. I agree with DoczDoc, the 357 has classic lines and is a beast in rough water. I do miss the boat, I looked like I was going 100 mph at 60 mph!! I would also recommend 4 blade props if you need to reprop the boat. much smoother, less vibration. When you are propping the boat, you can actually buy different ratio gear sets for these drives. I understand they were designed with just a few sizes of props and you would buy the gear sets (at a much lower cost than the props) to set speed and rpm. There is actually a Kamma prop made for the drives, but they are rare. Gear sets are 1:1, 8% and 13.5% if I remember. You go + or - % by where you put the gears on the input our output shafts. Kamma really thought about a lot of things when they developed the drive. I have also heard they are good to about 800 hp, but the twin disc is the weak link on hp. Not sure how much they can take. Anyway, look forward to following your build and reminiscing about my 357 kamma. Sweet boat!
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Love it !! Deep Purple works great as a Bilge Cleaner and Degreaser.
Go thru and look for anything in the cockpit or cabin that looks marginally fastened or secured. While you have things apart is the best time to give attention to the details.
These boats have great bones...but are notorious for having "Do Dads" shake loose and tear apart during hard use....such as hard Ocean running. Double check screws and fasteners around trim, railing, cleats refrigerators and especially cabin/cockpit doors.
These boats are built to run and take you safely across the water. Time and wear take it's toll but with a bit of work beefing things up you can make your time using that rig more enjoyable.
Go thru and look for anything in the cockpit or cabin that looks marginally fastened or secured. While you have things apart is the best time to give attention to the details.
These boats have great bones...but are notorious for having "Do Dads" shake loose and tear apart during hard use....such as hard Ocean running. Double check screws and fasteners around trim, railing, cleats refrigerators and especially cabin/cockpit doors.
These boats are built to run and take you safely across the water. Time and wear take it's toll but with a bit of work beefing things up you can make your time using that rig more enjoyable.
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[QUOTE=seeyouinajif;4507973]Got the email and realized I hadn't updated this in a while. Boat is at the shop, went over a nice list for the winter with the guy working on it.
As of now motors are out, so here are some pics. Getting a few things redone, mostly making sure it's 100% mechanically right, cosmetic stuff can wait till next winter after we beat it up in the ocean for a season. Redoing the whole engine bay now with new glass (deleting the old exhaust holes), two bilge pumps and new blowers, battteries, refreshing the one old motor, new boots on the kaamas, mkaing sure the kplane pumps are good.
[URL=http://s56.photobucket.com/user/captainsandyvagina/media/C90E8569
I know you have prolly already seen it but bake sure the forward bulkhead by the gas tank is dry. I had to have mine redone in the exact same spot small crack and waer got in there. Good luck with the redo I loved mine!!!!
As of now motors are out, so here are some pics. Getting a few things redone, mostly making sure it's 100% mechanically right, cosmetic stuff can wait till next winter after we beat it up in the ocean for a season. Redoing the whole engine bay now with new glass (deleting the old exhaust holes), two bilge pumps and new blowers, battteries, refreshing the one old motor, new boots on the kaamas, mkaing sure the kplane pumps are good.
[URL=http://s56.photobucket.com/user/captainsandyvagina/media/C90E8569
I know you have prolly already seen it but bake sure the forward bulkhead by the gas tank is dry. I had to have mine redone in the exact same spot small crack and waer got in there. Good luck with the redo I loved mine!!!!
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Cool! you were able to get the Custom super secrete Formula full enclosure. I hear you can have it on up to 80mph. Looks nice making some progress. Must be giddy; all the steps you can have input to making over this beauty.
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Bought a left over 1987 357 with Kaama's and 450's from Inovation Marine. Had the boat for a couple of years and loved it. Loved it so much I bought it back 6 years after I sold it although it had stock 502 mags in it by then and was slower. Bone stock the best I ever got out of it was 69 in Key West in 2'-3's. I have had 4 boats with Kaamas and never had any real issues with them. Strong drives and well designed. A friend of mine had a 10 Meter Fountain with Arnesons and it never ran or handled as well as the boats I ran with Kaamas. Just my 2 cents. Oh and I would figure about 650 HP a side will get you to 80.