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Priobe 02-07-2017 05:55 AM

WTB- 312 w/ 454 mags or 502
 
Hello all
Wanted to know if anyone knows of a 312 fastech for sale. I'm looking for a very clean (I'm picky) boat with 454 mags or 502. I've been searching but have not seen much right now.

Also, where are are some sites to check. I know more than likely, I will be traveling out of my state of Fl to purchase.

Thanks

formula1 02-07-2017 07:56 PM


Originally Posted by Priobe (Post 4526643)
Hello all
Wanted to know if anyone knows of a 312 fastech for sale. I'm looking for a very clean (I'm picky) boat with 454 mags or 502. I've been searching but have not seen much right now.

Also, where are are some sites to check. I know more than likely, I will be traveling out of my state of Fl to purchase.

Thanks

You and me both! FYI, there a couple here locally (Fort Myers), but one has the regular 454 mpi's (689 hours) and the other has 350 mags. I don't believe the 454 mpi boat is listed anywhere. It's in decent condition, but had his company graphics all over and it will need to be buffed (at a min) to remove any sign of the graphics. It's kinda pricey for what it is since the guy just replaced the transom assemblies. I don't know too much about the other boat. Not sure I am interested in a 350 mag combo. But he is asking close to $50k! If you find a 6.2 or another 312 that don't meat your criteria, let me know. Maybe we can help each other.

Priobe 02-08-2017 06:04 AM

Formula 1 , sounds like a plan. I am familiar with the 312on the west coast but really prefer the 454 mag. or 502 motors.
Thx

Treads 02-08-2017 01:55 PM

https://baltimore.craigslist.org/boa/5962242548.html

FWIW, saw this on local CL site, not much info.

jwws9999 02-08-2017 04:10 PM


Originally Posted by Treads (Post 4527089)
https://baltimore.craigslist.org/boa/5962242548.html

FWIW, saw this on local CL site, not much info.

Pretty sure that's a scam

oh6662b 02-08-2017 06:36 PM

Yup scam

formula1 02-08-2017 09:38 PM


Originally Posted by Treads (Post 4527089)
https://baltimore.craigslist.org/boa/5962242548.html

FWIW, saw this on local CL site, not much info.


Originally Posted by jwws9999 (Post 4527112)
Pretty sure that's a scam


Originally Posted by oh6662b (Post 4527152)
Yup scam

Yeah, I saw that one too! Michigan license from 2013 in Baltimore Md. no description per se, or phone number and a rediculously low price.

Priobe 02-09-2017 06:10 AM

Thx for the info.
Agreed, Yup scam.

88242LS 02-09-2017 08:06 PM

get the 502's or a newer 496 one you will not regret

Priobe 02-10-2017 06:20 AM

I have read mixed review about the 496 motors. Does the 496 come standard with forged internals like the 502 and 454 mags?

I think I have seen in the past 496 and 496 HO, or are they the same.

LKNCOBALT 02-10-2017 07:53 AM

Saw this one yesterday on the local Charlotte Craig's list. Listing is very vague and only one pic, so I don't know if it's a good prospect or not. I feel like I've seen this boat out on the lake, but know nothing about it otherwise.

https://charlotte.craigslist.org/boa/5951984953.html

Priobe 02-10-2017 10:11 PM

Thanks I will look into this. They don't seem like they want to sell it with limited information.

dp9650 02-11-2017 11:16 PM

There is/was a1995 303 in North Idaho. It is in an estate. Big blocks. Around 200 hours. Silent thunder exhaust. Eagle triple axle trailer. It looks like it has been inside most of it's life. I have pictures that a dealer sent me. In the pictures, the owner even jacked up the trailer to keep the weight off the axles. A friend that helped me find my 292 wondered if I knew of anyone looking for a boat like this. Send me a message with an email address if you are interested. A dealer in Portland has provided me with the info. They are asking 40K or best offer. It is beautiful, but is definitely 90's colors.

88242LS 02-12-2017 09:24 AM

Feel free to post a pic always curious about garage gems

formula1 02-13-2017 08:34 AM

Thanks for the post on the 303. But, $40k is a bit optimistic for a 1995, garage queen or not. Old hull design and probably a bunch of seals that are all dried out from lack of use. A decent 312 should run between $30-40k.

88242LS 02-13-2017 09:03 AM


Originally Posted by formula1 (Post 4528486)
Thanks for the post on the 303. But, $40k is a bit optimistic for a 1995, garage queen or not. Old hull design and probably a bunch of seals that are all dried out from lack of use. A decent 312 should run between $30-40k.

I wouldnt shut it out, would i was in the same position a few years back, wanted a 312 but that 30/35ish number was getting me high hours or 310hp's neither i wanted, so i bought the nicest boat i could with what i could afford, even if it was slightly overpaying, 303 is a quick boat all thing considered, mine has 502's and have seen 80 a time or two, always 74mph ;o)

formula1 02-13-2017 10:36 AM


Originally Posted by 88242LS (Post 4528497)
I wouldnt shut it out, would i was in the same position a few years back, wanted a 312 but that 30/35ish number was getting me high hours or 310hp's neither i wanted, so i bought the nicest boat i could with what i could afford, even if it was slightly overpaying, 303 is a quick boat all thing considered, mine has 502's and have seen 80 a time or two, always 74mph ;o)

Don't get me wrong, I wasn't bashing the 303, just the pricing of it. I'm actually considering a 303 myself as we speak!

Papasmurf 02-13-2017 10:40 AM


Originally Posted by LKNCOBALT (Post 4527660)
Saw this one yesterday on the local Charlotte Craig's list. Listing is very vague and only one pic, so I don't know if it's a good prospect or not. I feel like I've seen this boat out on the lake, but know nothing about it otherwise.

https://charlotte.craigslist.org/boa/5951984953.html

I know this boat well. Cant remember the guys name, but he has a trucking company in West Va. Boat is dry stored at the old Skippers Marina. Has twin 496 Mag HO. Cherry condition. He hasnt had it long.
Ran with him during our last fun run. Good guy, i just think he has time to come down often enough. Boat will run out 75 mph plus I think it has a trailer too

dp9650 02-13-2017 12:06 PM


Originally Posted by formula1 (Post 4528486)
Thanks for the post on the 303. But, $40k is a bit optimistic for a 1995, garage queen or not. Old hull design and probably a bunch of seals that are all dried out from lack of use. A decent 312 should run between $30-40k.

Agreed, just passing on the information. I got the impression from the guy who told me about it, that 40K is a starting point, but being in an estate sale, offers would be welcomed, and cash talks. It is just a very clean, low hour, freshwater boat located in Coeur d'lene Idaho. Talk to Don Roush at Pacific Powerboats in Portland, OR if you want further information.

88242LS 02-13-2017 02:54 PM

Love ours,

http://i495.photobucket.com/albums/r...ps2d5eea0f.jpg

formula1 02-13-2017 10:16 PM

Thats a sharp 303 88242LS! I should be heading over to the east coast of Florida to check out a 303 with 454 mags in it tomorrow. After running the Bayliner yesterday on a super busy boating day, I'm ready to get my mojo back! I have
desperately missed my 292 since the day I sold it almost eight long years ago. I got a sweet deal on this Bayliner just to get boating again. Even though she sure can handle the waves, she sure is short on power. However, I do like carrying two five gallon jugs
of fuel to the dock and instantly I get a half tank of fuel and a half day of boating!!!!!

88242LS 02-14-2017 08:23 PM

thanks we love it!

Gbuttion 02-20-2017 06:40 AM

Not sure if you're part of Passion for Powerboats or Powerboat Swap Shop on facebook, but there's a 1999 312, twin 500 efi/hydro steering/k planes, that was just listed. I think has around 280 hours, the boat was for sale in VA two summers ago. As I recall, the motors were transplants out of a salvage boat.

Priobe 02-20-2017 10:21 AM

Thanks Gbuttion,
I will take a look

jwws9999 02-20-2017 10:59 AM


Originally Posted by Gbuttion (Post 4530715)
Not sure if you're part of Passion for Powerboats or Powerboat Swap Shop on facebook, but there's a 1999 312, twin 500 efi/hydro steering/k planes, that was just listed. I think has around 280 hours, the boat was for sale in VA two summers ago. As I recall, the motors were transplants out of a salvage boat.

saw that boat, so I take it that it's a saltwater boat with engines from salvage?

RGPIII 02-20-2017 11:38 AM


Originally Posted by Gbuttion (Post 4530715)
Not sure if you're part of Passion for Powerboats or Powerboat Swap Shop on facebook, but there's a 1999 312, twin 500 efi/hydro steering/k planes, that was just listed. I think has around 280 hours, the boat was for sale in VA two summers ago. As I recall, the motors were transplants out of a salvage boat.

I saw that as well. looks pretty clean. I would say it would be pretty close to 80 mph as well.

Gbuttion 02-21-2017 05:07 AM


Originally Posted by jwws9999 (Post 4530781)
saw that boat, so I take it that it's a saltwater boat with engines from salvage?

I can't say exactly, it was listed at Davis Auto Sales in VA 2 years ago. When I spoke to someone there, they said a local marina did the work and could provide details (receipts??) on the work. They're actually on OSO, they have a recent thread in the Sunsation forum, they are becoming a Sunny dealer from what I gathered.

I would definitely reach out to them if you want to get to the bottom of it, as you know from you search, finding that kind of power is rare. That should definitely be a high 70's boat any day of the week.

Here is the link to the thread, their website link is posted within, and of course you can get there user name and message them if you desire.

http://www.offshoreonly.com/forums/s...-progress.html

RGPIII 02-21-2017 07:08 AM

http://i1361.photobucket.com/albums/...psrys0rxkq.png

Here is a screen shot of it. The owners number is listed it in.

formula1 02-21-2017 11:36 PM

wow that's nice, but out of my price range for a 312. There are 353 and 382's for that kind of $$.

Priobe 02-22-2017 05:48 AM

Yup, agreed. At that price, I found myself looking at 353. Not to mention the added maintenance for those motors. Also, read that those motors only last 500 -600 hrs. Is that true?

Quinlan 02-22-2017 06:12 AM

We had 454Mag Mpi's in our 01- 29 Outlaw. Great motors. A friend took it when we got the T/S. It has over 1200 hours and still runs like a top. Never been opened. all freshwater. 25 hour oil changes.

formula1 02-22-2017 10:34 PM


Originally Posted by Priobe (Post 4531334)
Yup, agreed. At that price, I found myself looking at 353. Not to mention the added maintenance for those motors. Also, read that those motors only last 500 -600 hrs. Is that true?

From what I have gathered so far, is that the older "blue motors" should have the upper ends rebuilt after 250-300 hours because of weak valve springs. Better off rebuilding the uppers than loosing a couple springs and toasting a whole motor. Other than that, they should be ok (other than drinking some extra fuel, lol).

RGPIII 02-23-2017 09:24 AM

Once i'm done with mine, I'll be looking to upgrade to a 382. Probably after this season. Two brand new HP transom assemblies, less than 120 hours on Wazzup racing fully rebuilt 502's, stainless marine exhaust, brand new water pumps, starters, all new plugs, wires, cap,rotors, and fresh paint just done on the engines two weeks ago. New interior, Lumitec under water lighting, JL audio sound system.


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