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formula1 03-28-2017 10:01 PM

1995 Formula 303 pics and videos finally
 
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I upgraded my membership so I could post these pictures and hopefully a video of this 303 I can't get outta my head. Let's see if they load up. Remember, it had "low oil pressure" on a cold start. It had an abnormal amount of blowby after we ran it (not
real hard mind you) and a peculiar fuel setup. Please tell me what you think, please. Here we go:
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OIl pressure readings at cold start

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under step and PCV breather setup (same on other engine).

formula1 03-28-2017 10:13 PM

pic of boat
 
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here's a pic of the boat's motor's and the fuel "pump "booster" setup and the boat itself (while I wait for the video to load of the PCV nightmare and blowby):
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formula1 03-28-2017 10:31 PM

video, I hope
 
video, I hope....

How about a link instead....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fn8HPnIPRQQ

twin242ls 03-29-2017 07:35 AM

That video would make me tear my heads and manifolds off in a second and look for water.is the oil clean? any signs of moisture?

Knot 4 Me 03-29-2017 09:03 AM

Wow... Run from this cobbled up mess.

formula1 03-29-2017 09:13 AM


Originally Posted by twin242ls (Post 4541777)
That video would make me tear my heads and manifolds off in a second and look for water.is the oil clean? any signs of moisture?

Oil looked good. The only moisture I could see was a couple drops of milky residue at the bottom of the PCV breather. That didn't seem to concerning to me compared to the other
things!

aquaforce 03-29-2017 07:24 PM

That under step pic shows water has been standing in there for a long time. That level of neglect is disturbing and lends no credibility to anything the owner might say.
jmho

formula1 03-29-2017 09:35 PM


Originally Posted by aquaforce (Post 4541955)
That under step pic shows water has been standing in there for a long time. That level of neglect is disturbing and lends no credibility to anything the owner might say.
jmho

Right. What I couldn't understand was that supposedly the boat was kept in dry storage all most all it's life at THEIR marina! I asked if they left it out for a month or two during rainy season here in Florida or what, lol. But,
he didn't care for that comment. Just like he kept telling me he (the broker) himself used to be a mechanic. Then, I said, "if you were a mechanic, these things should concern you". No real response either. Seems like a
dead deal except for the possibility of me going over there again (3 hours each way) to find out what a mechanical gauge says and possibly a compression test. But, that's a whole day off I'd be committing to and I am pretty
sure (based on the data shown here) that there's a really good chance I'm not gonna find any exciting info that leans my way. Of course the other option is to hire a surveyor, but that's $500 out the window, if I was a betting man.

aquaforce 03-30-2017 11:39 AM


Originally Posted by formula1 (Post 4541997)
Right. What I couldn't understand was that supposedly the boat was kept in dry storage all most all it's life at THEIR marina! I asked if they left it out for a month or two during rainy season here in Florida or what, lol. But,
he didn't care for that comment. Just like he kept telling me he (the broker) himself used to be a mechanic. Then, I said, "if you were a mechanic, these things should concern you". No real response either. Seems like a
dead deal except for the possibility of me going over there again (3 hours each way) to find out what a mechanical gauge says and possibly a compression test. But, that's a whole day off I'd be committing to and I am pretty
sure (based on the data shown here) that there's a really good chance I'm not gonna find any exciting info that leans my way. Of course the other option is to hire a surveyor, but that's $500 out the window, if I was a betting man.



I would not trust anything they say when the obvious signs in the boat arr open contrdictions to their claims. If they want to get real with the price based on current conditions then it can sell. Otherwise it can be like so many boats that are for sale for many years and don't move. Sad this one needs so much but if they cut the price in half you might have the money to fix it.

Redneckcustoms13 03-30-2017 02:21 PM

Man, that ghetto fuel pump looks like someone's half ass idea of getting fuel to the engines after the one in the tank failed... That under step picture is almost a dead sign that the stringers are rotted. Whoever owned that boat should never be allowed to own a boat again.

oh6662b 03-30-2017 03:03 PM

Just keep looking. Good boats are out there. Be patient.

ph1971 03-30-2017 07:57 PM

Brokers are full of ship! All I heard was Captain maintained and immaculately kept. Then I got to the marina and the dipstick would come out dry or the plug was in the bilge drain and the battery switch was on. I would test run that thing and pin it till one of those time bombs pops and hand that broker the keys. Sorry you're getting the run around, I've been there man

formula1 03-30-2017 10:12 PM


Originally Posted by ph1971 (Post 4542265)
Brokers are full of ship! All I heard was Captain maintained and immaculately kept. Then I got to the marina and the dipstick would come out dry or the plug was in the bilge drain and the battery switch was on. I would test run that thing and pin it till one of those time bombs pops and hand that broker the keys. Sorry you're getting the run around, I've been there man

Maybe, it's time to report these lyin' punks to the state! It's amazing the qualifications needed to get a broker's license, but, it's almost impossible for a regular, ethical person to get a broker's license from the state following their guidelines/rules.

racinfast002 03-31-2017 06:43 AM

The water under the step doesn't bother me. I've 2 fastechs and both had that. I'm pretty confident it leaked between the windshield and the deck, as the water in it was always really clean and I would notice more water after I washed the boat. A lot of formulas have that "problem" and I don't see it as an actual problem.

However, that low of oil pressure on cold start up is a 100% no go for me. I would want to see around 40 at idle cold. I think I would be a hard pass on that one unless they came off some serious coin. Just because a motor is new, doesn't mean its right.

Edit: and I bet the additional fuel pump was to help with vapor lock being that its a florida boat. I bet that is a problem down here more so than other places.

aquaforce 03-31-2017 10:04 AM


Originally Posted by racinfast002 (Post 4542356)
The water under the step doesn't bother me. I've 2 fastechs and both had that. I'm pretty confident it leaked between the windshield and the deck, as the water in it was always really clean and I would notice more water after I washed the boat. A lot of formulas have that "problem" and I don't see it as an actual problem.

However, that low of oil pressure on cold start up is a 100% no go for me. I would want to see around 40 at idle cold. I think I would be a hard pass on that one unless they came off some serious coin. Just because a motor is new, doesn't mean its right.

Edit: and I bet the additional fuel pump was to help with vapor lock being that its a florida boat. I bet that is a problem down here more so than other places.



I saw a Florida Formula sell as new engine. Come to find out it was a cheap box rebiild with journals under turned at .010 and mains at .020. Yea new, right, new junk.
This engine may have been worked on the same way and has internal probs big time.

formula1 04-01-2017 10:53 PM


Originally Posted by aquaforce (Post 4542444)
I saw a Florida Formula sell as new engine. Come to find out it was a cheap box rebiild with journals under turned at .010 and mains at .020. Yea new, right, new junk.
This engine may have been worked on the same way and has internal probs big time.

Well, buyer be ware. I figured I would post the info here so that any other "serious" buyers would find there way to this thread. I really like the boat but I'm sure there ain't much negotiating. They offered me a 30 day warranty, but
I am not sure it is worthy of the paper it is written on. Last I heard, the 30 day warranty, the boat would have had to be towed 3.5hrs over to Stuart (their shop) for the work to be performed. Hey, wasn't your shop the one that did all this crazy
work in the first place?

badmonkey 04-02-2017 09:05 AM

Run and never look back....:sport009:

88242LS 04-03-2017 09:27 AM

water under step is common, somebody didnt check that at one point, that breather has either never been cleaned, I mean never, or its def pushing some major oil, they all tend to blow bye a little but that seems like more then a little,


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