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F14A water jet 05-02-2019 08:17 AM

311 vs 292...first REAL boat
 
Hello Forum,
I have been lurking for awhile...
I am moving (part-time) to Perdido Key, Fl. (Gulf of Mexico). I am transitioning from the performance car habit to the performance boat habit...can't do both. :-( I had a small Glastron-Carlson for 25 years but I am now ready to step up. I’m looking at two boats (same price) and would like some first-hand experience:

Boat 1: 1989 Formula sr1 311 fresh water boat with twin 454 mercruisers (1997, 200 hours) with Edelbrock marine carbs. aluminum myco trailer, fridge, bathroom, sink/ wet bar. New bimini top. Open cooling system. Speedo says 70mph NEW INFORMATION TRS drives

Boat 2: 1989 sr291, super clean salt-water boat. Owner is “retentive” maintenance/upkeep. Fresh-water cooled 454s (300 hours on refresh), bravo 1s (2018 refresh), Latham hydraulic steering (2018). Dual axle aluminum trailer.

Thanks for any inputs/insight.
Tom

Redneckcustoms13 05-02-2019 09:06 AM

Id get the 311 being as it is a fresh water boat. Put a closed loop system on it and have fun playing here in the gulf with it for many years to come.

TomZ 05-02-2019 09:12 AM

The 311 is known as being one of Formula’s best boats. Very timeless. They’re not known for being very fast, but are incredible wave crushers for their size. My boat runs about 70 with 502 MPIs and TRS drives.

The 292 is also a great boat. I believe they have more in common with the 242/272 hulls.

Fit and finish on both will be done excellent for the time period. Look for rot in the transom and stringers, and the bulkheads fore and aft of the fuel tank. You may have to unbolt the cabin step to get a good look (this is a must, don’t buy without verifying integrity there).

If the boats are the same price and check out well, my vote would be the 292 with its Latham steering. That’s easily a $5-6k upgrade alone, and completely changes the way the boat handles. Someone really loves that boat!

Post up some pics! It’s possible that we may know the boats/owners.

Tom

F14A water jet 05-02-2019 09:26 AM


Originally Posted by Redneckcustoms13 (Post 4684910)
Id get the 311 being as it is a fresh water boat. Put a closed loop system on it and have fun playing here in the gulf with it for many years to come.

Does the 70 mph seem right? I'm estimating $900 (half system)- $1300 (full system) per motor for a closed loop...agreed?

F14A water jet 05-02-2019 09:32 AM


Originally Posted by TomZ (Post 4684912)
The 311 is known as being one of Formula’s best boats. Very timeless. They’re not known for being very fast, but are incredible wave crushers for their size. My boat runs about 70 with 502 MPIs and TRS drives.

The 292 is also a great boat. I believe they have more in common with the 242/272 hulls.

Fit and finish on both will be done excellent for the time period. Look for rot in the transom and stringers, and the bulkheads fore and aft of the fuel tank. You may have to unbolt the cabin step to get a good look (this is a must, don’t buy without verifying integrity there).

If the boats are the same price and check out well, my vote would be the 292 with its Latham steering. That’s easily a $5-6k upgrade alone, and completely changes the way the boat handles. Someone really loves that boat!

Post up some pics! It’s possible that we may know the boats/owners.

Tom

Excellent points...I will probably have a professional survey. This may be the wrong way to view it BUT I'm a little concerned the top speed on the 292 is not enough (I'm hearing 60 mph). Will a novice like me notice Latham steering upgrade?
One boat in Denver....the other in NY.

Nothing personel 353 05-02-2019 01:25 PM

Is the 1st boat Bravo or TRS? If so go with boat with Bravo drive s

F14A water jet 05-02-2019 01:47 PM


Originally Posted by Nothing personel 353 (Post 4684948)
Is the 1st boat Bravo or TRS? If so go with boat with Bravo drive s

I've asked this question...I have a picture but cannot seem to post until I have more (10 minimum) posts?

TomZ 05-02-2019 02:01 PM

A 311 TRS boat is a better balanced, and basically bulletproof, combination. The TRS set up is old and finding parts can be somewhat more difficult (but they also don’t really break so that’s a mute point). I love my TRS boat!

Unless it was originally built with 420s, the 311 will have Bravos. The 292 is Bravo for sure.

Not sure I can really comment on the speed deal without seeing them/knowing the motors. The 292 probably has some good power in it if the owner added hydraulic steering.

Got any links to the boats boats in question?


t500hps 05-02-2019 02:19 PM


Originally Posted by TomZ (Post 4684951)
..............................The 292 probably has some good power in it if the owner added hydraulic steering.

Got any links to the boats boats in question?


Or worn out gimbal rings????

TomZ 05-02-2019 02:22 PM

True, but that would be a huge investment compared to fixing the gimbals. That’s my thought anyway.


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