Kaama question
 

Since I've never seen a real live Kaama(only pix) I was wondering...Whos name is on the engine:confused: Kaama , Mercruiser , PCM...inquiring minds want to know;)

:confused: :confused: :confused: 25 hours and nobody has an answer.
Hey Cuda check it out for me tomorrow on your sea trail:D





15 to go:cool:

I'm pretty sure the engines have been painted. I was waiting to see if anyone knew the answer.

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Mopower, what are you counting down?

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OK , Now I'm an official post whore:p

Now I can turn the lights out and go home:)

Night , night.

Glad I could help!:)

hey mopower,
Kamma used two engine buildersa at the time. Originally they bought engines from Hardin Marine and packaged the engines with their drive and transmission packages. Hardin marine engines were all LS6 motors painted blue. The intake was an aluminum LS6 pice and it was painted blue. The headers were Hardin series 1000 with double walled, stainless tailpipes and the headers (manifolds) were painted.....Blue. On the side of each manifold was a rectangular plaque that usually was ball routed with the name "HARDIN" on them. However Hardin marine private labelled these engines and the said "KAMMA" on them. The plaques were aluminum billet pieces and they were anodized.........Blue! The only exception to the blue rule was the valve covers. They were cast aluminum Mickey Thompson pieces and they were not painted blue. Or any other color. Even the pumps for the drives , which are stock Mercruiser pieces, have "KAMMA" labels covering up the Mercruiser labels. As far as the engines after they were done with Hardin in 1985, I don't know jack ****. They didn't use many of these other motors (KAMMA was pretty well done) and this other builder had BIG reliability problems. And thats the story.

Good story .Thanks

Hey Alj

my understanding is the engines came in two power configurations: 375Hp and 425Hp... do you know this to be true?

if I remember my discussion with mercruisermatt, the 425 engines actually output 460Hp. they were under rated.

Yes
 

Ram,
YES!:D

Hey Bud
 

Just screwing around there! Yes they did. I also looked at an F402 KAMMA on lake Mead that had the third configuration. Twin 330 HP's! I have never found any literature on these 330's though. They were Hardin LS6 engines but had regular cast iron exhaust manifolds and much milder cams. They were still thru hull exhaust though. (DUH! Al!) Also important to note that the KAMMA Hardin engines were rated as 375 and 425hp (and were likely underrated) but in 1986 when KAMMA changed engine suppliers to_______ (insert mystery name here) the horsepower ratings went up. They were advertised as 405 hp and 450 hp. These by the way were the engines that eventually helped the demise of KAMMA I believe. Word is that nearly every one of these mystery engines let loose. KAMMA got killed on the warranties, and manufacturers using KAMMA paks like Stuphen , Wellcraft, and Formula bailed on Betty Cook and KAMMA. So, KAMMA-Hardin =GOOD; KAMMA-mystery engine= BAD. I 'll have to do some research on this engine thing to let youz guyz know. I'm pretty sure I got that info on offshore only at one point a long time ago. Even Mr. Magloo had heard info on these motors being screwed up. BTW, I have some of this info from old Formula brochures and I have some old Formula price sheets that have the KAMMA info and options on them. Pretty cool stuff. Now leave me alone for a while. I have to get back to the wives and girlfriends thread! WHY DIDN"T YOU JERKS TELL ME ABOUT THAT ONE SOONER? Jeez!

I don't know if you guys are still interested but I have quite of bit of literature on the Kaama product line. I will have to dig it out. I worked for Kaama for a couple of years until the end. Let me know and I will share whatever I have.

Nice to see you starting to post a little on here :)

Kaamapart, I,m interested in any info you have, let me know. thanks, Paul

kaamapart
are you with Team Archer now??

I am definitely interested too

I missed out on a beautiful 302 with kaamas and only 186 hours and probably missed a 357 nearby with built engines and does 67 with kaamas.

maybe his is still available. but either way i am on a kaama mission.

can you mail this info or email it
I can pm you my address or email
thanks

Ramb
272 with bravos (for now.....)

I have an 86 357 with KAAMAS. The engines are by Innovation marine. They still used the M/T valve covers which had a plate in the middle that stated "Kaama by Innovation Marine", this plate also had the hp rating in large numbers between Kaama and Innovation Marine. The drive pumps and tab pumps were the same but the drive pumps had Kaama stickers over the Keikhoffer(sp) name. They used New Tech(sp) Firepower ignition boxes which had Kaama stickers on them. Although I won't swear they are original, although I believe they are, the blocks are Bowtie. I have the original Kaama engine operation manual, it shows 3 engines available 1-350, 2-454 I don't remember the hp ratings. The transmissions are by Twin Disc.

I had the first 357 with Kaama's (425, I think).

I don't remember what they said on them, but I blew 3 of them in the first 2 months. All replaced under warranty, but only with LONG delays and personal intervention from Vic Porter (who took one out of an nearly finished boat on the production line in Miami).

Then one of the Borg-Warner transmissions let go, and couldn't be replaced until the NEXT SUMMER, because so many had blown that Borg ran out of parts!

Not my best boating summer, I'll tell you that.

Sorry guys, I've been busy with the holidays and all. My literature is in boxes in my house somewhere. I promise to dig it out and let you know what I have.

No I do not work for Archer. I know him since he is an old KAAMA / Conner employee as well. I've been out of the industry for years.

Trivia Question. What prime time network TV show prominently featured a KAAMA boat?

I had also heard that my engines were built by Innovation, but there is nothing on the engines that say so.

Was the tv show Miami Vice?

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It was Rip Tide..... scarab s type.....

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The last time I was in Sarasota when I was launching my boat, there was a guy there that worked for some marine repair place that said he worked at Innovation when they were building the Kaama motors. I'm pretty sure they were the same parts as the Merc 454/420's that were assembled by Innovation.

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Innovation Marine

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Is kaamapart still around?