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The complete 382 thread
I don't think this has been done yet and I think it would be interesting to anyone doing research, I'm starting a thread for each model boat. I'm hoping they will be the complete "guide" to each model. What I'd like to see in it is hard facts about this model only,(length, beam, available power, years produced, numbers produced, colors, pictures, weights, pricing for different years.)
I'd like to keep out the shopping questions. But feel free to put in comments about likes and dislikes, common problems, and results with different power packages. As time permits, I'll troll through old posts and add info collected through the years. If I didn't start a thread for a model you want to see, start one up with the right subject name. Thanks in advance, Dave |
Originally posted by Troutly Well, let me be the first to throw up a picture or two :) |
Originally posted by Troutly Length.....38'2" Dry weight.....10,450 lbs :eek: Weight weight...11,800 lbs :eek: :eek: :eek: Draft 33" Head Room 5'1" Likes....styling, room, amenities (gen-set, A/C-Heat, TV/DVD, Stainless Windshield, Stereo, ITS drives). Dislikes....current prop slip issues and the exhaust is too damn loud for up here. Gotta get those issues resolved. Overall, nice boat :) Hot Water |
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600 hp Volvo/Innovations and ZERO prop slip issues. :p :
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Originally posted by C_Spray 600 hp Volvo/Innovations and ZERO prop slip issues. :p : Thanks |
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2000 model, 600 hp Innovation/"Volvo" engines, DPX-A drives, A/C, generator, hot/cold water, TV/VCR, bimini top, cockpit carpeting, cockpit and full covers. Added Icom M45 VHF and Garmin GPS 2010C (big 10") chartplotter myself. We usually cruise at 3900-4000 rpm/55-60 mph, and our best speed so far with a full load is 78.7.
Boat's official name is "Me, Too!", but Troutly has dubbed it "The Refrigerator": |
Troutly, What kind of mufflers are on yours? I have a set of almost new Corsas I took of my new 382. How is your top speed 76 gps?
John B |
Also, Tell me about your slow speed prop slipping. I have the same problem with my 382 with stellings.
John |
Is anybody having any port listing while running with a 382. I have an 03 with 575's and ITS and the boat leans to the left and feels like there is a drag on that side. Also know of another 03 with 575's and no boxes doing the same thing in my boating area. Both our boats are loaded with a gen.,ac, etc. It is a very annoying feeling while cruising along!!! I don't feel this is right, my dealer agrees.
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I cruise at about 42-43 MPH at 3500 RPM with drives less then 2 and tabs at 8.5 to keep the bow steady.
TABS AT 8.5, I DIDN'T KNOW FORMULA MADE A SUBMARINE Just had to harass you a little, good luck with the fine tuning. I'd expect when you are done you will probably be in the eighties :cool: Just remembered when my buddy bought his 2002 382 with 575's and stellings he had a bad prop slip also. He never resolved that issue, he sold the new 575's and put in Teague 800's and dialed in from there |
On delivery of my boat earlier this summer it was equipped with 34 pitch four blade labs from Merc and the boat would not even get on plane. Also, the right prop would blow out and not stay hooked up and the RPMs would just fly to the top. The left prop would stay hooked up. The dealer has tried multiple props and turned the boat over to me with 5 blade 29 pitch Hydromotives. We immediately found that even with the 5 blade the right prop would still blow out if the sticks were pushed the least little bit firmly/forward. Does this sound like what you're experiencing? .... Leaving some of the story out, we are currently running 32 pitch four blades and the blow out is much better.
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Originally posted by wrinkleface Is anybody having any port listing while running with a 382.... I looked at moving the batteries, but the way Formula wires a boat - no way (too complex). So, I put all my heavy stuff in the right side storage bins and the head. Still have to run about 1/2-point more tab on the por in most cases, though... |
Originally posted by wrinkleface Is anybody having any port listing while running with a 382. My 2001 leans about 1/2" on the port side when docked. I don't notice anything when running. |
Troutly-
I have the 500EFI's and run labbed 28's, and the Stellings boxes. I tried a pair of 30's and it was a DOG out of the hole and also lost top end (about 6-7MPH). Took them right off and went back to the 28's. |
I don't have any lean on my 1999. No air, no boxes.
As I've posted before, I get the same top speed with either labbed 28's and 30's, but at 5000 RPM Vs 5300. Cruise is 5 MPH higher with the 30's, so they're what I use. I'm sure that acceleration is faster with the 28's, but that's not important to me. No trouble with either blowing out: I've heard that Thunderbird used a more conservative X-dimension in '99 than in later years. I've never had any porpoising. Fuel load does make a several mile per hour difference (75 empty, 72 full up). Tabs up, Drives at 7. I've had very good results using Throttle Up in Clearwater, FL to do the lab work. They did a better job for less money than Merc did. You ought to give Matt a call and see what he thinks. He's doing several F-2 race boats, including a Formula, I think. I find it incredible that T'bird would let a boat out their shop that wasn't spot on. You should call them and get help . . . on their nickel. |
Originally posted by Troutly Ha! They run the indicators from 0 to 10 going in to out on the drives and 10 to 0 going up to down on the tabs.....smarty pants! :D Did he even attempt to solve the slip issue with his 575's and Stellings?? The boat was sent to Teague Custom Marine for dial in, when the boat arrived he sold my buddy on the 800's. There was a 2003 382 Formula that a dealer was showing around here, it was the same setup as yours, same paint, same motors, same drives etc... The thing that caught my attention with this boat is that they used 5 blade props. I do not know how this boat ran with that setup. I do know the dealer if you would like to talk with him. But you know those boat salesman :D |
Originally posted by Troutly I'd love to talk to them. If you don't want to post the name, PM it to me. Thanks :) Name: Delta Pacific Yachts Rocklin Showroom Powerboats of Rocklin 4467 Granite Drive Rocklin, CA 95677 Phone: 916-630-1300 Ask for Peter Wallace Tell him Allen from Discovery Bay referred you http://www.yachts2k.com Good Luck |
Troutly - You are probably going to need Hydramotive 5 blade props to correct your prop slip issues. I insure a 382 that was the test bed for the Merc 5 blades and they were the solution. Call me @ 1-800-530-3357 if you want to discuss.
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Originally posted by Troutly ........................I can wait until next spring when they will be ready as my boating season will be done in another 1.5 months..... :rolleyes: Seriously............Troutly, do you have the March HOTBOAT magazine issue. If not, I'll send it to you. |
Troutly,
I have a Formula test on a 383 525 ITS, with 12380 lbs, 31 b1's it ran 75.8 at 5150. That's full gas and two people. I think with b1 28's and pulling the spacers you should hit 75 light, about 1 or so less than a 382 without all the "accessories". My 382 slips so bad at low speeds the Corsa sound choice is opening at 25 - 28 mph at 3000. I asked Robt to order a set of Maximus 30's three months ago. Five blades will slow us down maybe 1, and 2-3 more if they are not labbed. Check your other post, tuning on the rpm issue. John B |
Originally posted by John B Troutly, I have a Formula test on a 383 525 ITS, with 12380 lbs 12380 lbs!!!!!!!!! No fat chicks!!!! Geeez!!! Why so heavy John? Oh.....a 383? :confused: |
383 is a 382 with a/c and Genny. the babe in the bilge! With low water pick-up.
10500 empty-dry, the fat chick with blower= 200, two meat balls= 400, 190 gallons of gas @ 6.2# each=1178, 75 #'s of gear and water for the suction box! = a 12500 lb chick magnet!!! Smarty |
Troutly,
I know how you feel. Mine ran 74.5 (3 people & full gas), 79 (1 person & 25 gallons) with Corsas stock. Without Corsas 82 (1 person & 25 gallons). If it's hot and humid subtract 1 or 2 from these numbers. All are GPS readings. Your motors are probably not as sensitive to restricted exhaust as the 525's. John |
wrinkleface
- One more to add to the list - list to port that is - 2003 lite with 575's, XR's with Stellings and Sportmaster lowers, no gen or air etc. Told dealer at 20 hour checkup and two other times for service - no answer. Sure is annoying while running, no problem at rest. I thought it was just me until I read your post - have you had any explanations ? Also, I have tried the Labed 34's that were delivered on the Boat, 32's, 5 Blade Hydromotives, and 28's on GPS. 34s - results 50mph - 3500rpms 68.5mph - 4500rpms 78.5mph - 5100rpms WOT 5 Blade Hydromotives 49mph - 3500rpms 69.5mph - 4500rpms 77.6mph - 5200rpms WOT Trim indicators @ 8.5 with Roster |
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2001 382 Fastech 500EFI, Stellings boxes, B1 28p, full cabin , no AC or genset, full head, color TV etc.. Race fering, no windshiled 77 on GPS all day, 80 if light nad 1'chop.
Great boats this is the second one I have bought new, my 95 had 600+ hours on it. rebuilt drive once thats it! 340 hours on the 382 now, rebuilt one drive at ~240 and the onterone in June. It's all good! Photo below taken during this years Catalina Ski Race.. |
Big Dog (I think I have some of your clothing line - ha)
No resolution yet on the port list. The factory is working with me to get to the root cause of the problem and fix it. Hope their findings with my (R&D boat) will help you and others also. I did expect this boat to be much more dialed in than it proved to be. Prop and planing issues were not what I expected considering my thought that this is probably Formula's most tested hull. (F2 boats) Hope we're ready to rock and roll for the start of boating season in Northern Michigan next summer. Wrink |
Hey Wrink,
Wish it were my clothing line ! I just happened to speak to the factory today! They mentioned your ( R&D for the Winter ), seems they want to get to the bottom of the problem. In my dealings with Formula, I can't speak more highly of their willingness to solve a problem. Low 80's, Blue Skies this weekend - Still a bit of rock and roll left here in Georgia. big dog |
Hey BIG DOG! Just curious if you were going to change your member status to allow for pm's? keep me posted!
Thanx, Wrink |
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