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jackhammer 12-17-2003 01:48 PM

USAuctions (EBay)
 
Anyone looking at the 357 coming to Ebay soon? it's listed at USAuctions now... I've been waiting on a description for about 2 months now! I'm thinking it was submerged in the tidal surge of the hurricane.

What drives are those?

And what's a good bid? I'm going to miss the end of the auction so I want to put a livable bid before I leave.

jackhammer 12-17-2003 04:15 PM

4656 1986 35ft Formula 357 SR-1 - Essex, MD

usauctions.com

Bill272 12-17-2003 05:59 PM

Those are Kaama Drives. Cuda could probably give you more info on them.

Andy 12-17-2003 07:45 PM

Will need a good description before bidding

bford1 12-18-2003 01:22 PM

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It would be nice to have more of a description on it. I''d out of the market now but would be curious to know how much it went for. I just bought this thing a few months ago. (Looking forward to next summer).

jackhammer 12-18-2003 05:12 PM

man I just love that look!!!

I'm going to only bid assuming the drivetrain(s) need a complete rebuild, The interior needs a complete once over, the electronics/electrics are shot and/or problematic, there are places needing new wood, and it needs new paint. Never fails anyway, learning from my last 2 boats (smaller scale projects). I actually have a lot of fun rebuilding and get a whole lot more satisfaction.

So... I'm thinking this way. What's the hull worth? add a couple dead engines/drives... that's my bid. Any $ ideas based on that? 10-15k?

bford1 12-18-2003 06:18 PM

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Personally, I wouldn't be brave enough to buy a 17 year old boat with no survey off of an ebay picture. But, you could get a great deal.

If it helps mine had $24,000 spent on the engines 81 hours ago. It's an '85. I had it surveyed and is solid but in need of lots of TLC and little things like switches, new carpet bulbs, bilge pump, etc. etc. nothing major. I paid $31,000 for it with the trailer (which needs some work also). So, you could say I spent less than $7,000 for the hull.

jackhammer 12-20-2003 08:55 AM

That's a hell of a deal!!! I really like those low profile blowers!!! Did you get full engine specs? Have you had it out yet?

Oops... I just read your other post. 76 is pretty damn good!!!

bford1 12-21-2003 03:39 PM

Thanks - I've only had it out once. I'm really looking forward to next summer.

Has anyone bid on that other 357?

jackhammer 12-21-2003 04:06 PM

Auction doesn't start on Ebay until Jan 10. Hopefully it gets delayed again because I'll be out of the country until the 19th.

Something about those kaamas have me in a trance!

bford1 12-24-2003 09:59 AM

I'll be curious to see what happens. Maybe you could get someone to bid on it for you. I didn't realize it had Kaamas. That is sweet. You don't see that many 357s come up for sale. At least not like 311 and 272s. I had been looking around for several months and stumbled across the one I bought the day it came online.

jackhammer 12-26-2003 01:05 PM

It's not the bidding part i'm worried about... it's the handing over the cash part without sticking my nose in it.

I have a gut feeling it's going to go for more than it's worth... I recently saw a smashed and submerged 32 fountain go for 28k... double what I expected!

I stumbled across another project 86 357 with no engines (has TRS Drives). If this one with kaamas doesn't work out at least I have a back up plan.

bford1 12-29-2003 09:24 AM

Yeah, I've seen that heappen bidding also. I'm not sure if people get excited and want to win the bid or they just over estimate the value. I'm still very interested in seeing what happens.

bryanspeedracer 12-29-2003 09:57 AM

Jackhammer,

USauctions and e-bay are no bargains. In fact, any site that auctions boats is a gamble in my opinion. The two that I bid on (and won) the seller never followed through (e-bay and yachtauctions). I looked close at that 32 Fountain that was wrecked, submerged, and propped up nicely on land was a huge gamble. Who buys these boat for so much coin, unseen?

GregP 01-16-2004 01:44 PM

It's on E-bay now. Currently at $9k.

Andy 01-16-2004 07:05 PM

I have just bid on that beast. Needs a rebuild but the price may be right. If I win Cuda will geta call on thoes Kammas. The shafts are straight the props arn't bent but the fins are broken. Salt water in the engines for 6 to 7weeks, OUCH!

cuda 01-16-2004 07:20 PM

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I love my Kaamas. I haven't had any trouble with them, other than replacing a 17 year old boot. I've heard all the gears can be bought over the counter. Team Archer carries all the parts. The only thing I've heard that isn't available is the case itself.

cuda 01-16-2004 07:21 PM

Now after saying all that, I'll probably blow a drive tomorrow when we are out.:(


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