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Re: Thinking about a 336...
According to Formula:
The LOA of a 336 is thirty three feet and six inches. The LOA of a 311 with the "bolt on" platform is thirty three feet and six inches. I do not know the differences in width. Docked next to a 353 FastTech two years ago, the 353 seemed maybe a foot and a half longer than my 311. |
Re: Thinking about a 336...
From the 89 brochure, the LOA of the 272 was 28'11" and the 292 was 30'11". The 311 is listed at 33'0". The max beam is listed at 8' for all of them.
From the 95 brochure, the 303 and 336 have a max beam of 8'3". I called Formula a while ago asking if the 336 hull was basically just the 311 with the integrated platform and the guy there said that wasn't the case, that it was a new hull. I was asking if they had any info on how it performed with Hydromotive QIV's (based on info I got from here from Formula Outlaw's posts) when they told me this. I did find it interesting that the 336 gained 1000# over the 311, 7400 to 8450, and that the bridge clearance went from 5'5" to 5'11". |
Re: Thinking about a 336...
Now this IS interesting. My original paperwork that came with Outlaw has it listed at 33' 6".
One thing that hurts the older 311's is the very low X demension. When I repower next year I am going with Speedmaster lowers with a higher X demension. That's why the Hydromotives worked so well on Outlaw. It got the rear of the boat higher out of the water and reduced the drag tremendously. It will be interesting nwo that I've dumped the silent thunder box and gone with aluminum manifolds and risers, that I've lost close to 400 lbs. right at the stern. I'm hoping that this will help get the azz out of the water even a little more. If I took my hatch cover off the bow might be underwater. :D |
Re: Thinking about a 336...
I'm not doubting your original paperwork, but I was going on the old brochures they have scanned on the Formula website.
I had an engine rebuilt last spring and the builder is a racer. He said that I would probably pick up 5+ mph by raising the X dimension or running shorties. That's a big investment though. A buddy and I were talking about how cool it would be if a there was a local shop with a pair of shorties they would rent out. They could probably charge $400-$500 for a day of testing. I have been keeping an eye out in the classifieds and ebay for some QIV's too. BTW, at the end of the 2002 season I ran into a guy with a 311 with big power who made taller hatch brackets for the back of the sunpad, creatinga 1" gap at teh back. I think he said he picked up 2 mph by getting more air to the engines. |
Re: Thinking about a 336...
Originally Posted by dukenrock
I've got a 2001 382 for sale.
Where do you (and your adorable "Smokercraft" daughters) run a 382 near Ft. Wayne, IN? My brother lived there for several years. I grew up in Defiance, Oh. You should tow over to Toledo and run over to Put-In-Bay sometime this summer! |
Re: Thinking about a 336...
Originally Posted by f311fr1
I had a '85 272 and a '89 311. I sold the 311 and went to a 43 Black Thunder. My next boat will be a 336. They are 6" wider and about 6" longer and about 9" deeper than a 311. Try to get one newer than '94 as Formula made some hull changes around then. (hook or rocker at transom) Formula originally had rocker to help plane, but removed to help speed and handling. Latter models ('95 & '96) will run low 80's with lite load. Smaller boats on a lake are much easier to dock ect. than the bigger boats. Also sometimes depending on water levels you just can't get the big boat in some coves.
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Re: Thinking about a 336...
Totally random post to see if my new avatar shows up......
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Re: Thinking about a 336...
Formula tech support should answer the questions about the changes to the 336 hull. If not you might talk to Magicfloat (RobertNelems) Nelems Marine in Jasper, AL. You can find him in the dealer section of boattrader online. I know one person who traded a '94 for a '96 to get the better bottom.
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Re: Thinking about a 336...
I believe the later models had a notched transom.
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Re: Thinking about a 336...
If you cannot find a good 336 you might also look at a Powerquest 340. It would be my second choice and is still a current model. The Powerquest used the 336 as a benchmark and is very similar. Not all of them have McLeod interiors and almost everything is an option so you have to really do your homework to do a comparison.
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