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Apple a day 03-27-2006 09:56 AM

bottom wax
 
Thinking about waxing the bottom of my 27 fever. Will it help or hurt top speed. Opinions please!

DollaBill 03-27-2006 10:39 AM

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I used to rain-x my scarab about once a month. Don't know how effective it was................

Fountain38SC 03-27-2006 12:20 PM

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Do a search there are many opinions both ways. I did mine several years ago. made it easier to clean but that was about it.

pm203 03-27-2006 02:29 PM

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I Did my Gladiator and my buddy,s Topgun. No effect on speed , just alot easier to clean. I woudn,t waste my time unless you boat in fresh water.

sleeper_dave 03-27-2006 02:39 PM

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Originally Posted by pm203
I Did my Gladiator and my buddy,s Topgun. No effect on speed , just alot easier to clean. I woudn,t waste my time unless you boat in fresh water.

Why would fresh water make a difference?

I boat in fresh water. i couldn't tell you if it makes a difference, but a lot of people have recommended a product called "scat". Most say it's worth a couple mph. I plan to give it a try this year.

Smarty 03-27-2006 03:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Apple a day
Thinking about waxing the bottom of my 27 fever. Will it help or hurt top speed. Opinions please!

Waxed the bottom of every boat we ever had, 13' Whaler, 15' Whaler, 16' Donzi, 18' Donzi, 20 Cigarette, 24" Pantera, 27' Magnum, and it helped, plus made it much easier clean. I would strongly suggets it.

US1 Fountain 03-27-2006 04:18 PM

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I give mine 3 coats before taking it to the lake for the season. Even though it is on a lift all summer, it keeps it clean. As a general boater, not a racer, I prefer convenience over that possible chance I can find 1 or 2 mph. I don't spend much time at WOT.

Hydrocruiser 03-27-2006 04:56 PM

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A good polymer coating will fill in pores that could eventually allow blisters to form. Wax it.

pm203 03-27-2006 05:17 PM

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Originally Posted by sleeper_dave
Why would fresh water make a difference?

I boat in fresh water. i couldn't tell you if it makes a difference, but a lot of people have recommended a product called "scat". Most say it's worth a couple mph. I plan to give it a try this year.

I think that the salt would eat away the wax immediately.

10x 03-28-2006 01:20 AM

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The wax will only help you to clean it easier. The shark is the fastest fish in the sea. Did you ever feel how smooth his skin is? :eek: Like sandpaper.

Fanatic 03-28-2006 02:00 AM

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http://www.amonline.net.au/fishes/faq/fastest.htm

:D

RaggedEdge 03-28-2006 03:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Fanatic

Damn you learn something every day. I had always thought a sailfish was a little blow boat for use by wannabe sailors while in training to move up to a larger version where they can get an engine and motor about like we Powerboaters they seem to hold in such high regard. I know they think highly of us because when we go by they always stand and give us that "You Are Number 1 " salute , they don't seem to do that for their fellow blow boaters. Clearly they like us better.

Wax On - Wax Off ? Helps with cleaning for sure. The only thing I ever found always helped with speed was plain old Horsepower! Maybe " Horsepower In A Can ". Venture capital anyone ? Worked for the Nitrous guys ! Well they used the bottle angle , but it worked ! Need to work out the easy on easy off angle and we are in.

LAKESIDE RESTORATIONS 03-28-2006 06:34 AM

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Originally Posted by 10x
The wax will only help you to clean it easier. The shark is the fastest fish in the sea. Did you ever feel how smooth his skin is? :eek: Like sandpaper.

You'd be right a sharkskin like surface is technically faster. I have a customer who actually paid to have a coating like that put on his boat. Wax does help to protect and looks a lot better, but doesnt really do it for the speed... Actually there was an arcticle some years ago in one of the big boat mags about actually sanding the boats bottom to aid in aquiring a little more speed..

Jamie :)

Downtown42 03-28-2006 07:36 AM

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Actually without wax the pores are exposed and will aerate the bottom better...more bubbles more speed.

wrinkleface 03-28-2006 08:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Downtown42
Actually without wax the pores are exposed and will aerate the bottom better...more bubbles more speed.

Listen 2 this hydrodynamic expert! He is a Used car dealer! :evilb: :evilb:

Downtown42 03-28-2006 08:49 AM

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How did you know? Was a used car manager back in 80's at Acura dealer...don't tell anyone. :frog:

Apple a day 03-28-2006 09:05 AM

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I have heard sanding will make it slightly faster but my boat isn't really a hot rod anyway so in the interest of cleaning I think I will wax it. Thanks for all your opinions!

BAJA WILL 03-28-2006 10:29 AM

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Just makes it easier to clean, I mean how much of a Fountain is in the water at WOT anyway???? Like 12" and any wax on that 12" is being basically pressure washed so it won't stay on more than a few minutes anyway.

WILL :drink:

Jonas 03-28-2006 01:51 PM

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http://forums.screamandfly.com/forum...ad.php?t=58456

check this out..
i have always heard will be slower if youwax it.

RaggedEdge 04-02-2006 08:37 AM

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A wet sanded surface is the fastest. Take two pieces of glass plate , a perfect surface , wet them , place them face to face , then try to pull them apart. Surface tension holds them together. Why do you think manufacturers spend mega dollars to redesign hulls to add steps ? To break that surface tension between the hull and the water. Way back when , guys racing small hydroplanes would "trick" out the bottom and lower unit by using flat black paint then wet sand it to gain a little edge on the other guy. Some also created little "Steps" in the running surface to get a little more speed. Did it work ? You tell me. Why do Step bottom vees run faster than Non-Step vees ----- Less Surface Tension. Take it one step further ----- Why do Cats run even faster ? Even Less Surface Tension by virtue of the fact that the air packed into the tunnel creates " Lift " that further reduces the Surface Tension , also helps to carry the weight of the boat , allowing the horsepower to concentrate on moving the boat foreward.

So why don't manufacturers give us a nice wet sanded bottom on our new boat ? Likely the added process would add real money to the price of the boat , labor costs being what they are , and most of us would ask when were they going to buff out the bottom cause it looks like chit !!!!!!!!!!

carney 04-03-2006 04:33 PM

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All I can say is my mother used to wax my bottom when I got out of line. And it made me run like hell if I could get away.

LAKESIDE RESTORATIONS 04-03-2006 05:29 PM

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:evilb: :D

pullmytrigger 04-03-2006 06:14 PM

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when Susi waxes me Im really slow to get away......... :drink:

RaggedEdge 04-04-2006 06:49 AM

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Originally Posted by pullmytrigger
when Susi waxes me Im really slow to get away......... :drink:

Would that be the "Wax Off Procedure" ??????????

jcimprover 04-13-2006 03:33 PM

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Originally Posted by sleeper_dave
Why would fresh water make a difference?

I boat in fresh water. i couldn't tell you if it makes a difference, but a lot of people have recommended a product called "scat". Most say it's worth a couple mph. I plan to give it a try this year.

Scat will help keep your bottom from turning green. If you leave your boat in the water all the time, it works good. It will cost you a few mph though.
my 275 Baja gps 63 mph
After wheeling out the bottom with 3M super duty rubbing compound to remove the Scat,
I saw 67 on gps.
JC


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