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Is there a thread missing or I'm I missing it somwhere?
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Originally Posted by itilldo
Is there a thread missing or I'm I missing it somwhere?
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So Stevemaman got banned? I cant find any of his posts about it now.
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Originally Posted by jryan26
So Stevemaman got banned? I cant find any of his posts about it now.
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Originally Posted by itilldo
Is there a thread missing or I'm I missing it somwhere?
The worst part, everywhere I go I see you there...... :D :D :D If you get anyworse yo uwill be as bad as ME!!!! :evilb: :evilb: :evilb: |
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I agree. It was getting old, but if he got phucked like he said he got phucked, everyone should know about it. There are 2 sides to every story, but that whole transaction stunk.
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Steve ma man get 86ed? I know how he felt...but after OSO said enough on the first bash, he just kept on sending it in...and there you are...86ed! OSO is a COOL deal and sometimes we forget that!! whip :cool:
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Originally Posted by jryan26
I agree. It was getting old, but if he got phucked like he said he got phucked, everyone should know about it. There are 2 sides to every story, but that whole transaction stunk.
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I think he was really upset because the porta pot wasn't the correct one for the boat. :eek:
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Originally Posted by US1 Fountain
I think he was really upset because the porta pot wasn't the correct one for the boat. :eek:
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Originally Posted by RaggedEdge
Important if your time is to be spent dockside because what you bought won't run.
I don't know if he should have been banned...maybe a timeout. He did have some valid issues. |
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Originally Posted by dean51267
brother you are EVERYWHERE - I am going to start calling you OSO WHORE..... :rolleyes: :rolleyes:
The worst part, everywhere I go I see you there...... :D :D :D If you get anyworse yo uwill be as bad as ME!!!! :evilb: :evilb: :evilb: yep...I like to see what's going on with everyone...:drink: also I'm working on my 1000's post before the end of the month. :D |
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I got tired of his griping and saying how OSO failed him. We gave him plenty of advise before he purchased and he came back here not only bashing the dealer but telling us that OSO failed him. Why would anybody be in such a rush to buy a boat "today" and then fork out the cash sight unseen? That is just asking for trouble and he was warned and was advised prior to the sale. He told us all about how successful he was in his Ferrari dealership but had no idea how to look over a boat that was purchased. He wanted the boat cheap and there is always a reason that the seller will let something go below market value. If you went to his Ferrari dealership and saw a particular model that was 15-20% less than comparable ones elsewhere, what would you think? I was more that willing to help him source items that he may need regardless of how the boat was purchased but when he came on here and started mouthing off this last time, I had no use for him. I believe that he got what he paid for (including a trailer that he even stated at one point was a freebie in the deal). If he had not bashed the dealer publicly just hours after picking up the boat, he may have received some assistance from the dealer. I do believe the dealer offered some assistance early on until the bashing was too extreme. Why was he in such a rush and then wait a month or more to pick it up? Why was he in such a rush when he picked it up? This deal was screwed up from the very first post. I would have no problem buying a boat from this dealer but would still check it over before I bought it. I would also check over a 8-9 year old Fountain from Reggie himself it he had one I wanted to buy. The same if I were to go to the bank to cash a $100 check, I would count it before I left. It is not that I don't trust anyone but mistakes do happen and in a used item of any type, there is room for interpretation.
I do know where I would never buy a Ferrari. Partly because of his actions here and partly because if he can not inspect a boat for himself, then how well would he inspect a car that his sole purpose is to sale and make money on. |
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Originally Posted by pachangalpina
I got tired of his griping and saying how OSO failed him. We gave him plenty of advise before he purchased and he came back here not only bashing the dealer but telling us that OSO failed him. Why would anybody be in such a rush to buy a boat "today" and then fork out the cash sight unseen? That is just asking for trouble and he was warned and was advised prior to the sale. He told us all about how successful he was in his Ferrari dealership but had no idea how to look over a boat that was purchased. He wanted the boat cheap and there is always a reason that the seller will let something go below market value. If you went to his Ferrari dealership and saw a particular model that was 15-20% less than comparable ones elsewhere, what would you think? I was more that willing to help him source items that he may need regardless of how the boat was purchased but when he came on here and started mouthing off this last time, I had no use for him. I believe that he got what he paid for (including a trailer that he even stated at one point was a freebie in the deal). If he had not bashed the dealer publicly just hours after picking up the boat, he may have received some assistance from the dealer. I do believe the dealer offered some assistance early on until the bashing was too extreme. Why was he in such a rush and then wait a month or more to pick it up? Why was he in such a rush when he picked it up? This deal was screwed up from the very first post. I would have no problem buying a boat from this dealer but would still check it over before I bought it. I would also check over a 8-9 year old Fountain from Reggie himself it he had one I wanted to buy. The same if I were to go to the bank to cash a $100 check, I would count it before I left. It is not that I don't trust anyone but mistakes do happen and in a used item of any type, there is room for interpretation.
I do know where I would never buy a Ferrari. Partly because of his actions here and partly because if he can not inspect a boat for himself, then how well would he inspect a car that his sole purpose is to sale and make money on. I don't want to get into a pissing match but if someone from a Manufacturing Dealer Rep tells me that "the boat needs nothing and checks OK" then as a new boater then my expectations would be as such, no issues. I'm not taking his side on this because I saw his original post of looking for a boat and the advise was given by many to have the boat surveyed but he was in a hurry. Well that cost him dearly in extra expense and truthfully not being on here anymore. Maybe I'm a little of the Ol fashion way of doing business of your word means something. In my boat dealings I believe that I have found a respectful and honest boat dealer. For example, I was looking at a boat that he had in his arsenal to sell and I asked about this certain boat, he informed me that this boat was rough and would not met my expectations. So he basically stopped me from purchasing that boat but he did finally set me up with my present rig and I did not have it surveyed by an outsider. Two reasons why I did not have it done: One, I was not aware of this site that enlightened me of the importance on the subject matter of having a boat surveyed and two, I would not have known who to call anyway, new to the power boat world. This was my first Large boat and I trusted the dealership to be honest and straight forward with me. By not having the boat surveyed it could have cost me a lot of money and time not doing what I wanted to do, Boat. I guess I got lucky. Every story has three sides: buyer, seller and the truth. Well I guess that’s enough on this subject matter…does anyone have any fast or slutty pictures of their boat :D |
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I have no doubt that he had issues with the boat but with minimal checks they would have be found. We also have not heard all of the conversations between the dealer and buyer. What torques me the most is that he came on here asking for help before he bought a boat and listened to nothing, then had problems and listened to very little that we said, then came back on here again and basically said that OSO was to blame and proceed to tell use how we should handle a purchase. A simple water test and all issues would have shown their head.
Perfect boat...no, but it could have meet all of his requirements with some negotiations. At the advertised price it probably would have been close to perfect. But the price was negotiated down considerably and many new parts were given to the customer as part of the deal for him to arrange the installation of. I was not there and as was said there are always 3 sides to a story. But when the boat was suggested as needing nothing, that was probably at the advertised price which was different than the "as is/sold for" price. |
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Originally Posted by pachangalpina
I have no doubt that he had issues with the boat but with minimal checks they would have be found. We also have not heard all of the conversations between the dealer and buyer. What torques me the most is that he came on here asking for help before he bought a boat and listened to nothing, then had problems and listened to very little that we said, then came back on here again and basically said that OSO was to blame and proceed to tell use how we should handle a purchase. A simple water test and all issues would have shown their head.
Perfect boat...no, but it could have meet all of his requirements with some negotiations. At the advertised price it probably would have been close to perfect. But the price was negotiated down considerably and many new parts were given to the customer as part of the deal for him to arrange the installation of. I was not there and as was said there are always 3 sides to a story. But when the boat was suggested as needing nothing, that was probably at the advertised price which was different than the "as is/sold for" price. |
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He should have started and ran the boat.
He should have not vented on OSO 24 hrs after delivery. I think some agreements could have been taken care of but with his public outrage, that shut it down. Missing snaps, cracks/spyders in windscreen etc. must have been seen when he showed up to get boat. If this was and issue, why didn't he address right there? I personally do not know BlownIncome but the guy just tries to hammer out a living like the rest of us, I doubt he has a new OL on order for selling a boat here and there. I believe BI is a real guy and would be straight to deal with. I still would have ran the boat for 20 min before I paid anyone in full. |
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" "Your cheapest deal is not always your best deal."
I have to believe he made an offer and the dealer possibly said "as is" and he bought it thinking there couldn't be that much wrong until he got it home and turned the key. ed |
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I just find it hard to believe any dealer would deliberatly outright lie about the condition of this boat in order to move it and expect to stay in business. Steve could very well have called a surveror to check it out or even had an unbiased 3rd party check it out, or not paid in full up front before seeing it himself. He chose to do none of those. I think alot of info was not mentioned.
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hello everyone... was just readmitted into the oso. we need to turn the page on this chapter.
selling the boat if all goes well tomorow. losing lots but who cares. learned the hard way and it costed ! will be looking to buy a 42 from now on. i will take into account all valuable advice i got from all here on oso. you guys can bet on that ! next seller i will deal with will regret he ever advertised his boat !!!!!!! :mad: i noticed a velocity 41 on the oso on jacksonville.... what do you guys think of these boats ?? i definitely will stay away from 35 ft as i find it not big enough.. i also noticed a triple engine 42 1999 boat at 99000$ on oso... what is wrong wih the triple engine fountains?? fuel cost is killing their value ? or are they not great boats... i've upped my investment up to 130 000$ this time... 1997- and up... NO SALT WATER USED BOATS ..... main thing... unless there are zero traces of corrosion,etc... which is impossible i found out ! my dear friends, here we go again. we'll get it done the right way this time... i also see that phantom 34 i was looking into b4 i got the fountain 35 is still there 4 sell... that was a sexy boat but small it seems.... please,lets all work together for a new boat for me... and forget the past . i am not looking for any rebuke of any sort, just positive advice. i've paid enough with the last experience. just constructive advice PLEASE !! |
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Well good to hear from you and hope all is well. I too I'm looking into a larger boat. Not sure to buy now (unless the right boat and deal come along) or wait until winter and see how boat prices are being affected by gas prices. I would look at a 42 Fountain some where in the 99-02 mdl year. You can get great reliable power and low hours on them. Glad your back and hope this purchase goes very well for you! :drink:
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Stevemaman, Better luck the next time around. I see your post over there in Velocity land, all I can say is what are you smokin' boy. It's a retired race boat, a Velocity, nuff said. I owned a Velocity. Been there and never going back !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Originally Posted by RaggedEdge
Stevemaman, Better luck the next time around. I see your post over there in Velocity land, all I can say is what are you smokin' boy. It's a retired race boat, a Velocity, nuff said. I owned a Velocity. Been there and never going back !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
all cylinders of my boat has 130-135 .. one at 60 . leak down test showed exhaust valve leaking...could hear it in exhaust. buyer agreed to wait a few days till had was pulled off... my 2 ferrari mechanics pulled it off today.. sent it out to the engine shop.. a big tip made it that they had half the shop on my head... the removed a bad valve seat.. fitted a new one... did 3 other valves at the same time...cleaned, tested.... etc... back at office at 5 pm. all reinstalled. job done in 7 hrs including machine shop ! called the buyer and marina .. ready ! what ?? cant be... pics and compression gage will prove it i said ! everyone was amazed... shows u how much i am concentrated and motivated to sell. i had a 365 1970 ferrari being prepped for monterey show/auction... stopped that. boat is priority to be out of my life ! if all goes well, payment at 2 pm 2moro after the mercruiser marina fellow checks the compression on that cylinder... had to take a outlaw 25 1998 with mpi 502 on trade.... but who cares.. main focus was to sell the fountain. |
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how bad is a velocity 41 ? how bad is it that it was built from a race boat by the factory in 99 into a pleasure...
what makes them bad boats? i find the fountain a thin ,small boat... not bulky...i want the feeling of a big machine... like a big baja :eek: maybe the 42 will do it for me... i want the feeling of being in the back of a boeing 747 contolling the plane from the back back seat ! looking for a long nose.... the 35 seems to sit you in the middle of the boat..making the nose short... |
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Steve,
Did you get that email I sent you? |
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Dude you need to buy a new boat.............no used boat will make you happy..........................
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Originally Posted by Interceptor
" "Your cheapest deal is not always your best deal."
I have to believe he made an offer and the dealer possibly said "as is" and he bought it thinking there couldn't be that much wrong until he got it home and turned the key. ed but truth to be told he called wanted to buy my boat,,, he obviously had no clue,,,, he was loooking at the auto style wholesale deal,,, he didnt know that i dont have to sell my boat ,,, i want to selll my boat,,BIG difference,,,,, next the dealers in the boat industry are amazing me, its so unregulated that they do what they want, i think he got hosed and its his own fault,, but!!!! if you did that owning a motorcyle shop car dealer or selling real estate you would be done!!! its crazy how few good dealers there really are,,, the perspective of even thinking about selling a boat that gauges presures or whatever doesnt work or issnt right is nuts,,, the sell you car with over heating probelem no oil presure ant the speedo not working hmmm.. not gonna happen is it especially if you are a dealer. i feel bad selling my fountain it need s a few snaps replaced in the cockpit cover,, so discounted the price 25 k,,, strange business,, not really liking what i see,, not really liking the experience i had with them either,. if a 16 yr old walks onto your lot and you own a dealership 1 would you sell her a p o chit?? you very well know she dont know anything about it. 2 would you educate her and posibly loose a deal? hmmmm not hard for me to answer but we only sell inflatables and we dont have to make a living of it,, if its a cust that needs a mtg loan i will explain and maybe looose a deal to someone that will blow smoke up there tail and then be diff at signing.. your thoughts?? |
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steve quit f in around and buy my boat i will let u have it for 135k cash deal and i gaurantee you will be happy..
if you are not happy you should stick to cars,,, :evilb: you can not compare as we discused the old and the new,, :D call me the boat at this will be gone by the end of next week :mad: jonas |
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your boat is too small. 35 is for sure what i dont want in a fountain as of now. minimum is maybe 38 . for sure 42.
i am looking at that 42 on ebay. cigarette,fountain or other,.. |
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