How to get 35 EX into the 80's
 

Brand new member, I have a 2002 29' w/575sci that runs low 80's. I want to trade up to a 35 Executioner, but want to see at least low 80's, hate to go backwards in speed. Everything I see shows the EX going 78 MPH on a good day, are there any low cost options to make this boat go into the 80's? Don't have the tow vehicle to handle a lighting!

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Depends on your definition of "low cost". You could start with CMI exhast on the 496HO's, but not sure if that would get you into the 80's other than with one passenger and light fuel. However, you could put a Raylar kit on the 496 HO's. Should get you around 525HP per side and easily into the 80's. Go to http://www.raylarengine.com/kits.html for more info. Not sure I understand your comment on EX vs. Lightning and weight as I think the two 35's are within 1,000 pounds of each other dry.

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i dont think the lightning is much heavier than the ex
but never checked,
i would just get a lightning with 575's i just sold mine, Great freakin boat.

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my boss had an 05 Executioner with 496 mags and was on the limiter at 80.6 3 people and 3/4 full of fuel

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was actually an 06..

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Thanks for the replies. Fountain website lists the Ex with a dry weight of 7,700 lbs, and the lighting at 8,600 lbs. Add a trailer and liquids, and I don't think my Escalade can handle a pull weight over 10,000 lbs with a lighting. Plus, the prices on the Ex are very appealing!

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I understand the weight issue now. Not sure I'd personally make a boat buying decision based on my tow rig, but hey, I don't even HAVE a tow rig, so it's clear I'm the wrong person to ask on that one.

I hear you on the EX pricing, you can find some new '05's still lying around that are cheap. Considered buying one myself, but bought a used 38' instead. Not sure if you were planning on going new or used, but if you haven't already thought about it, I'd look at some used 32's and 35's before buying a new EX. There's a lot of good used Fountains for sale here on the board and elsewhere.

Wish I was back in the market. Good luck!!

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Theres your problem. You have a tow rig that is built to pull Malibus, and centurions (ski boats). So go get a real truck!(A Diesel!!!!!!!!!!!!!) But dont get me wrong Escalades are sick, I have one as well. But I tow my 29 w/575 as well with an 05 chevy duramax lifted with all the power upgrades....90mph @2300rpm on freeway. The truck does not even know that it is back there!!!!!!!!!!!

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To get the boat to 80 - find about a ten mile stretch with a 1 foot chop - pick the tabs all the way up - kick the drives out to 5 and a half - nail the throttles - wait a half hour - evenutually it will make it to just over 80. :evilb:

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Best explanation I have seen yet. I have an '05 35 Ex and it does exactly the same thing. Plenty of time and water and you will get 80 and sometimes a bit more (.3 - .6)...however, you will get 75-76 under almost any conditions. Considering the cost and reliability of the 496's this has got to be one of the best deals in go-fast land! However, if you need to have the speed, as we all know, all it takes is cubic money! Good luck...G-

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Your Escalade will have a hard time with the Ex too. You will be towing around 9,000lbs easy with a 35 EX, trailer and small amount of fuel. Just make sure you get an Ex with 525's and you will hit around 84mph.

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with all the great prices around I considered moving up from my 29 to a 35........but then I realized truck upgrade would be in order too.......suddenly getting a new boat is just not that $imple.......people say "Oh, just get a new D Max!".........a new boat AND a DMax......just like that eh?....yeah OK :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

Im keeping the 29......least for now :D

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Most definately - the 496s really seem to give you the best of both worlds without the hurt of having to do valve train maintenance every 250 hours. They dont kick like the 525s but they dont cost like them either. I am not knocking the 525s - they are fabulous motors - just stating a fact.

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You need blowers ,whipples,pro chargers and you will not have to wait. My 35 with 525sc will come out of the water like a jet ski and run 85 all day long, and I have idle the motors from one lake to another 3 hours with out any problem.

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If you want to go fast in a 35 check out Reggie's brand new 35 ICBM. It is the NEW 35 with staggered 525s. We ran it up to 107 MPH! And it is VERY stable with no chine walking or funny stuff. We also tested it with a full tank of fuel and 5 big dudes. Lost about 4 MPH but still ran 102+.
My advice: get it with staggered 496s. Still run in the mid 90s and get 5 year extended warranty on the motors.
Reggie's still got it goin' on!

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I towed our 35 Lightning twin step on a Myco aluminum tandem axle behind both my 2500HD extended cab and then behind my friend's F350 PowerStroke 4 door dually. No comparison, the dually was much more stable. Yeah, the 2500HD single rear wheels would pull it OK, but it felt much more "twitchy" behind the 2500HD. So if I was calculating the costs to go from a 29 to a 35, and planned on towing it, I would add the word "dually" to the truck requirements list.

My aluminum Myco weighed 2100 lbs per the MSO. Steel trailer would be a little over 3000 lbs. Add that to 8600 lbs for the dry boat, ~700 lbs for 100 gallon of gas, another 200 lbs or so for "stuff", and your close to, or a little over 12000 lbs, which is over most hitch limits without load distributing arms, unless you upgrade your hitch.
Bob

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My aluminum Myco weighed 2100 lbs per the MSO. Steel trailer would be a little over 3000 lbs. Add that to 8600 lbs for the dry boat, ~700 lbs for 100 gallon of gas, another 200 lbs or so for "stuff", and your close to, or a little over 12000 lbs, which is over most hitch limits without load distributing arms, unless you upgrade your hitch.
Bob[/QUOTE]

Not sure I agree with the dually requirement, I tow my 35 Ex with a new 250 Ford Powerstroke (single wheel) and it is a pleasure. Pulls great and stops great too. I have an aluminum Myco and figure the 12K stated above is right on the mark. I did upgrade my hitch and ball to a class V (16K rated) just to be safe (after being assured by the Ford dealer that the truck had the HD hitch rated for 15K...not even an option from Ford that I am aware of). Also figured this would cover me in the event I move up to the 38 someday! Good luck in any case.

G-

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believe it or not, i have a 1981 33' executioner with a pair of 900's and 3A's that runs better than 106mph, this just goes to show you that reggie was the man then and still is now!!!
if you want to go fast, all you need is the right boat and lots of $$$$$ the rest is easy!!!

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if you require any assistance in your quest for speed, i've been playing with reggie's boats for the last ten years.
i'd say this boat is the best bang for your buck, hands down!!!

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Have a 00 w/500s that runs 83-4 out of the Box in fresh, we have several customers w/35xs w/496s that run 81-83 in salt.