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Snoboardcore 03-22-2008 08:08 AM

on the nada for the motor do i put the motor in for 425-470 or 471-500. Because that makes a big difference in price on the boat. Its a 500 efi.

Magic Medicine 03-22-2008 08:23 AM

The blue motor is about a 25 -30K new. Put in 500. Its a buyers market right now and there are quite a few 27-29 Fountains for sale. You shouldn't pay more than low book for one of these boats, unless it is the absolute prefect boat. I don't use the term perfect losely. Take it from me I have experience, I have bought 4 in last 6 years.

Snoboardcore 03-22-2008 08:28 AM

The boat is a 2002 and the boat was 118,000 brand new. its only got 98 hours on it. With the 471-500hp it puts the boat around 71,000 high and 63000 low. im getting the boat for below the 63000. Already looked at it nice boat runs great just have to get it surveyed and go from there.

RaggedEdge 03-22-2008 08:34 AM


Originally Posted by Raylar (Post 2489024)
You gentlemen need a little clarification here. First, all Mercury Racing Engines, 500EFI, HP525, HP500, etc. are hand built in Fondulac Wisconsin at the Mercury Racing Plant. They start with just parts and blocks and build the engines from the ground up. They dyno them and rate the horsepower at the PROP, not the crank! for example a Mercury Racing HP525 makes approximatly 540HP at the crankshaft and 525HP at the propshaft.

Mercruiser (black motors) Mercruiser, a different company division of Mercury receives standard GM Powertrain engines at their plant in Stillwater, Oklahoma, accessories them with Mercruiser external parts, sprays them BLACK and ships them to the builders and buyers. These GM Powertrain factory built engines are the same ones GM ships to Volvo, Crusader, etc and GM dyno's and measures the horsepower on these engines at the crankshaft! Hence, all black Mercruiser motors that come from Stillwater, Oklahoma are producing and are listed as horsepower at the crankshaft, period !!
I hope this puts this question and mis-statements to bed for the last time!

Regards,
Ray @ Raylar




I love the opening comment. Truer words have seldom graced these forums.

The parting comment, if only it could be so. I think the best you can hope for is a little nap, it will eventually wake up and crawl back to it's feet. I always amazes me how someone can invest serious money, regardless of the level, into something and know so little about what they have spent their money on.

But Thanks Ray, the nap time will be enjoyable while it lasts. :D

Magic Medicine 03-22-2008 08:37 AM


Originally Posted by Snoboardcore (Post 2494904)
The boat is a 2002 and the boat was 118,000 brand new. its only got 98 hours on it. With the 471-500hp it puts the boat around 71,000 high and 63000 low. im getting the boat for below the 63000. Already looked at it nice boat runs great just have to get it surveyed and go from there.


That is a good deal, don't get caught sleeping,

RaggedEdge 03-22-2008 09:08 AM


Originally Posted by Snoboardcore (Post 2494904)
The boat is a 2002 and the boat was 118,000 brand new. its only got 98 hours on it. With the 471-500hp it puts the boat around 71,000 high and 63000 low. im getting the boat for below the 63000. Already looked at it nice boat runs great just have to get it surveyed and go from there.



Sounded a litttle high to me, so I just looked it up on the Nada link on Boat Trader. 27 Fever w/HP500EFI @ the 470-500 hp add came up $57,570 low, $64,270 high. Did not add any trailer, if there is one you would need to add for that. Don't go thru the list of optional equiptment adding everything the boat has, ie. Hydraulic Steering or Stainless 4 blade prop, as this is standard on the Fountain. Add just the power option and call it done. This is the way I look at this, and I sell part time for a marina. The only time we do additional adds is if the equiptment is known to have been an option when new, and then only the big ticket items, such as A/C or a gennie.

Use the low number as your guide, and play condition in as a plus or minus. Bear in mind that the market for perf boats is soft now, try to stay below that number even on a "Perfect" boat. Good luck, you have picked a great boat, buy it right and you'll be happy when you go to sell or trade it as well.

P.S. 2002, 27' tandem $2875 / $3270. Plus it a little fo a high end like an Eagle w/mags etc., take a little out if a real basic one.

Snoboardcore 03-22-2008 09:28 AM

either way im making out because im getting the boat for 47,000

RaggedEdge 03-22-2008 12:00 PM


Originally Posted by Snoboardcore (Post 2494963)
either way im making out because im getting the boat for 47,000


There you go, nice deal.

35 fountain 03-23-2008 11:42 PM


Originally Posted by tblrklakemo (Post 2487105)
496ho is 425hp at the CRANK.


average retail should be about 64k.....according to the NADA....

496 HO is 425hp at the prop shaft - not the crank

jmeng 03-24-2008 07:02 AM


Originally Posted by 35 fountain (Post 2496904)
496 HO is 425hp at the prop shaft - not the crank

I thought so too but appearantly not. Go back and read the whole thread.


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