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Fortius 03-22-2008 02:43 PM

Fountain 42 Lightning
 
Any experiences of Fountain 42 Lightning with Mercruiser 496HO 425 hp engines?

fountainracing65 03-22-2008 03:20 PM

In my experiance you remove them and add custom power. preferably Sterlings.

Back4More 03-24-2008 11:11 AM

:p

pookie 03-24-2008 02:10 PM


Originally Posted by Fortius (Post 2495186)
Any experiences of Fountain 42 Lightning with Mercruiser 496HO 425 hp engines?

Probably mid- 60's

35 fountain 03-24-2008 06:38 PM

Fountain says 75 mph in the 42 x but I dont buy it. No sale or resale value with this package. My dealer had one and sat on it for 3 years while the deck faded out and the lot rot set in.

Marginmn 03-25-2008 10:19 AM

Yea that's way underpowered.

Von Bongo 03-25-2008 10:26 AM

There was one that ran in the shootout a few years ago, I don't remember the exact speed but it was in excess of 70. The next year the boat was back with new power.

runafever 03-25-2008 11:25 AM

My guess would bo 75-77 with a good set of labbed 5 or 6 blade herrings. My brothers 04 525 boat has seen 85 with a good set of labbed 6 blades. That would still be a very fuel efficient package for someone that doesnt need a lot of top end but resale would be a little shakey.


RAF

Westcoast 03-25-2008 11:39 AM

Those would be staggered right?

runafever 03-25-2008 11:56 AM

Yes, staggard only. 42s are only offered in staggard.

On Time 03-25-2008 12:12 PM


Originally Posted by runafever (Post 2498789)
Yes, staggard only. 42s are only offered in staggard.

Depends on the price. 496's are fine engines, and should last several hundred hrs. Most of us cruise at 50 mph or so, right? 496's should get you there without being at WOT.

runafever 03-25-2008 01:42 PM

I wouldnt be scared of a 496 ho boat with some CMIs if the price was right. Good fuel economy and boat will still run in the 60s without running it on the dash.

Perlmudder 03-25-2008 01:45 PM

im impressed that a 42 footer with 850 hp will do 75. what do other boats run with 496s (baja, formula, velocity, etc)?

runafever 03-25-2008 01:53 PM

Staggard motors, drive height, and a real efficient hull.The Numbers I have posted are pretty optimistic however. Add gas, coolers, bedding and whatever else and I think that 75 is still attainable with a blueprinted set of props. Still a good package I think.

gerritm 03-25-2008 02:32 PM


Originally Posted by Perlmudder (Post 2498951)
im impressed that a 42 footer with 850 hp will do 75. what do other boats run with 496s (baja, formula, velocity, etc)?

My old boat, a 2005 32' Sunsation Dominator ran around 80 mph with twin 496 mag ho's. Might squeeze a couple of more mph with labbed props.It weighed about 6500 # versus 11K for the 42'. Fountain has a very efficient hull and drive setup. I have 525's in my 42' Ex and would not recommend the 496's. Poor re-sale and I don't think you are going to gain that much in fuel economy. Unless you drive the boat in cruise mode at 40 to 50 and plan on keeping it for a long time. I think the extra stress on the motors to push the boat to get on plane will out weigh the small benefits in gas mileage.

later 03-25-2008 03:20 PM

friend has 05 42 ex 496 loto stock as a rock 72- 74mph, no real problem getting and staying on plane

pookie 03-25-2008 04:30 PM

One big advantage is engine life rather than gas milage. 496's as stated above will go several hundred hours before a rebuild or major work compared to 200-300 hours for even modestly bigger power.

gerritm 03-25-2008 06:27 PM


Originally Posted by pookie (Post 2499218)
One big advantage is engine life rather than gas milage. 496's as stated above will go several hundred hours before a rebuild or major work compared to 200-300 hours for even modestly bigger power.

Not if they are running at the top of their RPM band and straining to push that weight, I have no experience with the 496 set up in that large a boat, only giving my opinion after having them in a smaller, lighter boat. There is no substitue for weight, length, and HP. I would not be satisfied with that set up.

tomtbone1993 03-25-2008 06:32 PM

do you guys forget they put 454's and 465's in the old straight hull 42's?


They also put 496's in new 38 Cigs

The boat would be slower than a 525 boat, but would be a very reliable mid to low 70's boat

monstaaa 03-25-2008 08:29 PM

we have a guy in my marina that repowered with 496's. 18000 lb 40' searay. runs in the 40's and has around 800 hrs since we repowered it 3 1/2 years ago. now thats a load and strain.

Westcoast 03-25-2008 08:38 PM

I would love a set of black motors in a new 42. Save up 20k and throw some Raylar kits and CMI's at it. You would get twice the life compared to the 525's and still save a ton of money.

Single With Twins 03-26-2008 06:53 AM

remember not to long ago the 42 package that was very popular had 500's, no fuel injection, no closed cooling etc......not much momre power than 496HO's. I would not have a problem buying a 496 boat and make same mild changes to bump the power a bit more.

Jay

On Time 03-26-2008 08:57 AM

Actually there are a few 42/496HO combos on the internet. I was thinking of getting a used one as a second boat.

Downtown42 03-26-2008 09:24 AM

staggered black iron? pass :cool-smiley-011:

Fortius 03-26-2008 03:42 PM


Originally Posted by Beak42 (Post 2500077)
Actually there are a few 42/496HO combos on the internet. I was thinking of getting a used one as a second boat.

Could you say the address?

Back4More 03-28-2008 09:59 AM

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Whipple them with the 650hp kit and laugh all the way to the bank.

gerritm 03-28-2008 01:32 PM

I Have priced the whipple kit for my Ex/525's and I know a friend that had 496 mag ho's done without upgrading the engine and you are in the 20K-25K range for the conversion. Add another 5K or so to build the 496's properly and you are around 30K. Wouldn't it make it make more sense to buy the boat with the proper HP and engines and have the right re-sale value. I can't imagine anyone paying top dollar for a used 42 with whippled 496 mag ho's. I would think that boat would be a dog on the market.

techman 03-28-2008 01:55 PM

How about a 47 with TRIPLE 496's?

http://www.pier57.com/200547lightning.htm

fountain 47 sc 03-28-2008 04:36 PM

I've got a 47 Sport Cruiser with triple 502's (very similar hp). It is a great boat with a smooth, dry ride even in rough seas and a big, roomy standup cabin. It cruises in the 50's and gets about 1 mpg without the motors even working. It weighs about 15k so I bet a 42 with 2 496's would ride about the same.

Fortius 03-29-2008 12:58 PM


Originally Posted by Beak42 (Post 2500077)
Actually there are a few 42/496HO combos on the internet. I was thinking of getting a used one as a second boat.

They said in Fountain,that they havn´t been making such combos,but they will,if somebdy wants.


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