Advice on a 42'
 

Thinking about buying this boat...any thoughts (good or bad!).

http://www.teamshogren.com/pre-owned...lightning.html

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42 foot boats, 700 HP engines, and bravo type drives don't stay together long. It's been tried over and over and over and the drives dont last. That is why Mercury finally spent big bucks to devolop their NXT drive.

Nice boat, nice engines, just be prepared to buy drives by the gross.

i wanted that one too. looks nice was tripple been converted to twins building the same thing now at home.

nice looking boat, good touch with the new style windshield, those are not cheap.

Good luck;

Jay

I would agree with Marginmn in respect to the HP vs Bravos. On a 35 you might get away with 700 and Bravos, not a good deal on the heavier 42. The other thing that plays into this is that with the 42 you can, and will just because you can, run harder in bigger water and the constant load - unload of the drive will crush it. We all say we plan to take it easy on things so they stay together, but then the fun factor of going fast kicks in and poof goes the drive. Been there done that, ain't fun. Did three in one week some years ago.

Boat looks good, I would check the converted from a triple deal out. But you could turn the boost down, make 600 hp, or so, and be happy if the speed is not a real big deal. You will likely be ok as long as you keep them checked and serviced. Why not look into the 99 42 they have with 500s, not as fast but far more reliable, or the newer 42 EX they have.

I think it looks like a really nice package personally. I don't have much experience in the bigger boats, but I think those Konrads deserve a little more credit then people are giving them. How many hundreds of 42's are out there with B1XR's.

I would say that do to the weight of the 42 the drives won't last as long due to the extra weight but alot will depend on where you boat, driving habbits, etc...

i would buy it if i had the coin, o imeant cash all i have left is coins:eek:

I have 72 hours on a 40' heavy conventional v-bottom with 700HP engines. In addition, Im not running couplers, im running a direct drive shaft and to top it off, 5 blade props. Im doing everything that is said to be "bad". I change the gear lube like socks, but I have yet to have drive problems. I realize the fountain has a higher X and may unload them more often.

Im running IMCO drives. I wouldnt fear this boat too much as long as the conversion from 3 to 2 is clean.

Big motors and bravos would not be my first choice.

Would anyone buy it and then upgrade them???? If so, what would you go to???

This one looks to have XRs w/ Sportmaster lowers. Someone mentioned Konrads above, not the case.

Sure, if you can buy it right or make the deal inclusive of upgrading the drives to Imcos or the like. I believe it has been there for a bit, try for the drive upgrade as part of the deal. Not saying you will for sure be buying drives by the gross here, just a lot of HP for a Bravo.

How fast do you want to go, just out of curiosity ?

Next boat...I'd like to go 90's mph. Mine goes 70..so I think that's a good step up...but not rediculous, I don't need to go 130 or more...! I'll save that for my Vette.

I'd check this one out....just as nice, same year, $15k cheaper, and with 500EFI's you won't go through drives:

http://www.performanceboatbrokerage....sp?boat_id=114

I'm working on that one also!!! :drink:

Baby it and it will live...Hammer it with a light load and calm seas.

You're looking at Fountains, a step up goes without saying. :D

Just kidding, you have a nice looking boat. But once you get to run one of these you will become a believer like the rest of us. Reggie does his homework!

That was me that said it was the Konrads. I looked at one of the pics and made a wrong assumption! :hitfan:

I wouldn't take it that way. I just made the comment that it had Bravos and not Konrads. I even went and took a second look thinking I had missed them, and I visit the Shogren site pretty regularly. No offense intended.

That is a much nicer boat, except it looks like a 2 yr old did the bilge rigging. The good news is that it can be cleaned up fairly easily. The race fairing greatly increases the rigidity.

yea but it aint gonna go anywhere near 90 with 500s

Clarify HP & Drives
 

They're 650HP, sold this way from factory for many years. Drives are IMCO, not bravo one.

FAster with two than 3 but lost some acceleration and picked up better ride.
 

The boat ran 99MPH with triple Joe Griffin 650's. We took one motor out, re-rigged as stagger, changed drive ratio and props, now it runs 102MPH.

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what prop and ratio

True (and I never said it would). But they are stock motors, which make a boat sell easier.

I thought that boat looked familiar

Some things look really nice about that boat:

Because it was a triple, it has a somewhat filled in notch, meaning a bit more buoyancy aft, so less "beaver tail slap."

That all new dash, with a 'glass instead of aluminum panel, is worth a LOT of money. Nice not to have to deal with the corrosion around the switches, screws, instruments, ...

Probably good stuff:

New transom and stringers in the eingine compartment are probably a big advantage, if done properly. Looks well done.

Bad stuff:

Looks like it will have a LOT of trailer tongue weight, as the axles seem set aft for the weight of the third engine.

Its a vacuflsh head, but where is the vacuum pump? Not aft-starboard like usual.