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Marcus1421 06-02-2010 09:38 PM

29 fever
 
I am considering purchasing a 29 fever. Hoping to find something 2005 or newer with less than 100 hours. What is the top speed with twin 6.2's. Any reason's not to go with this set up.

Fever575 06-04-2010 02:13 PM

I cant help you with the speed out of that set up but I think the big question is what are you going to be doing with it as for big lakes or out in the big pond. I have a single in mine and I am never far from a shore line if something were to go bad.
But as for the cost of ownership I would think twins are going to cost a lot more as for the maintenance. And if you work on your own boat then it is real nice to be able to sit next to the motor back there and have lots of room.
My 2ct

bob_t 06-04-2010 09:10 PM

70 - 72 mph is what you will see with twin 6.2's in a newer 29 Fever. Not quite twice the amount of fuel consumption of a single, but not that far away either, considering the lack-luster performance, twice the maintenance (you're looking at close to $200 to change oil, filters and drive oil), and if you ding up a propeller there are two of them to have repaired/replaced. Twice the likelihood for engine problems ... the 6.2's are known to eat IAC's like candy due to heat soak, but they are relatively cheap (~ $80 each) and easy to replace. And, when you try to sell it, low price and dismal resale prospects.

A single 500EFI (~ 74 mph), 575 (~ 80 mph) or 525 EFI (~ 78 - 80 mph) makes a lot more sense in a 29 Fever unless you have some special reason for needing twins. The only twins I will have again will be in another 35 Lightning Twin Step, or maybe a 38 and they will be blue one's for sure :D .

Fountain4402 06-05-2010 07:19 AM

ive got twin 454's boat which will do 75ish

FeverMike 06-06-2010 09:28 AM

I'd stick with a single engine in a 29 Fountain. The boat will be much better balanced.

Chrisrug 09-02-2010 06:35 PM

500 hp single is fountains recommended setup. for power to weight and cost of operation. lots of extra cost in twin setup for what you get out of it.

dykstra 09-02-2010 07:35 PM

Single 29 is the way to go!:drink:

ttuton 09-02-2010 10:08 PM


Originally Posted by Marcus1421 (Post 3125850)
I am considering purchasing a 29 fever. Hoping to find something 2005 or newer with less than 100 hours. What is the top speed with twin 6.2's. Any reason's not to go with this set up.

Check out Shogren, they have a boat that fits what you are looking for.

mcprodesign 09-02-2010 11:52 PM


Originally Posted by bob_t (Post 3127585)
70 - 72 mph is what you will see with twin 6.2's in a newer 29 Fever. Not quite twice the amount of fuel consumption of a single, but not that far away either, considering the lack-luster performance, twice the maintenance (you're looking at close to $200 to change oil, filters and drive oil), and if you ding up a propeller there are two of them to have repaired/replaced. Twice the likelihood for engine problems ... the 6.2's are known to eat IAC's like candy due to heat soak, but they are relatively cheap (~ $80 each) and easy to replace. And, when you try to sell it, low price and dismal resale prospects.

A single 500EFI (~ 74 mph), 575 (~ 80 mph) or 525 EFI (~ 78 - 80 mph) makes a lot more sense in a 29 Fever unless you have some special reason for needing twins. The only twins I will have again will be in another 35 Lightning Twin Step, or maybe a 38 and they will be blue one's for sure :D .

I'm with you on all of this. I have a single 2 7 and the only thing I worry about would be stranded in High surf w no power.. But for the majority of use that does not matter.Also a single sits high in the water in the rear unlike this 32 w twins. http://www.offshoreonly.com/classifieds/files/34821.jpg

mcprodesign 09-03-2010 12:21 AM


Originally Posted by mcprodesign (Post 3198859)
I'm with you on all of this. I have a single 2 7 and the only thing I worry about would be stranded in High surf w no power.. But for the majority of use that does not matter.Also a single sits high in the water in the rear unlike this 32 w twins. http://www.offshoreonly.com/classifieds/files/34821.jpg

Which makes me think. I wonder what One 1200 hp Chrysler would do in a 32?

Rookie17 09-08-2010 07:47 AM

I could easily be full of cr*p because I'm still kinda new at this, but... I've read many people spend a grip on B1 drives trying to have them stay together with bigger power.

One of the reasons I bought twins was for the bigger power but easier on the driveline. 75mph with only 420hp on each screw said reliability to me.

I didn't care about the maintenance costs or fuel, its a boat. They cost money.

Resale is relative, because you can buy twins pretty cheap too. Nobody seems to want them really.
For me how it comes out of the hole easy and guarantee of getting back to the dock was worth it. To each their own.

Am I just full of it or do you think not building drives as often offsets some of the added cost? Take it easy on me, I'm still a rookie :-)

NWPC 09-08-2010 07:54 AM

I got tired of replacing drives on my 29 with 575sci. Went to an Imco Scx. No Problems. Its for sale. Check the OSO classifieds.

Wildman_grafix 09-08-2010 08:57 AM

How much did the Scx cost?

As for the 32 sitting low, I wondered what a set of the new LS motors would do for it, I think it would lose about 1000lbs of the back.

Rookie17 09-08-2010 10:33 AM


As for the 32 sitting low, I wondered what a set of the new LS motors would do for it, I think it would lose about 1000lbs of the back.
About 200 - 225lbs per engine, fully dressed if comparing all aluminum LS to a BBC with iron heads.

I have a few Dodge Nationwide NASCAR engines laying around with very low time on them and was thinking of transplanting two of them into my Fountain. 830HP each at 9200rpm is a fun thought and save around 100+lbs each of weight off the back (lightweight iron block with aluminum heads, dry sump etc).

But that would screw up the whole twin engine reliability deal, and I'd be floating instead of boating sooner or later :)

I really think the whole twin vs. single engine deal depends on your boating goals. The twins probably don't handle as well and sit lower in the water for sure. The singles may cost less to own and are probably more likely to leave you needing a tow or bouncing off rocks with a dead B1 drive if you get the bigger power bug.
If you're single, for whatever reason the ladies see and hear two or more engines and like that. Back recently when I was still single, that would matter to me. I'm a male :)

Seems like what you do with your boat should make more difference than what someone else who has a different boating style or outlook thinks.

But thats probably just my inexperience talking... :)

Wildman_grafix 09-08-2010 11:17 AM

Yea 830 HP small blocks at 9200 rpm in a boat for sure will give you problems.

I thought the all aluminum LS were more then 200 lbs less the my all cast (Heads and block) BBC. Still 400lbs on a 7200lb hull.

As for the handling, I do know that I would not want a single in my 32, much easier to dock the twin and I get 82 to 85 out of fairly mild power (HP500EFI).

BTW

Does anyone know what IMCO's drives cost, just wondering when I need to upgrade what choices I have. Seems the arneson ASD6 kit is 23K each:eek:

NWPC 09-08-2010 12:06 PM

an Imco Scx drive with Sc lower and 5 blade Herring prop is $79,500.00. (boat included).

dookie 09-08-2010 12:22 PM

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call me crazy , but one of the things that i really liked is the way the 32 sits in the water. I do not really plan on leaving it docked over night much , but I have a few times and never really had any worries . I have two group 27 battery's and one group 31 . with two 1200 gph bilge pumps , I would think they could handle anything short of a small tsunami.
As far as docking characteristics , with the twins , It took me a little to get used to but wow , It seems like i can put it wherever i want now .
And oh yes mine comes out of the hole very well.
The sound of the twins in Sync just cannot be beat either!!!

Rookie17 09-08-2010 01:34 PM

I don't want to keep hijacking this thread, but I think this is relevant to the original question / post.

There is no doubt that with a 29 ft+ boat the slow speed steering capability is much greater with twins. A busy boat ramp or dock with some light chop is so much easier to deal with by steering the boat on the twin props.

I rarely even touch the wheel nowadays putting the boat on the trailer or coming into dock and just use the props to steer the bow at engine idle speed.

You can pull the nose over so quick if a wave bumps you off course, and nowadays I can even spin the boat almost on its own axis just with the props in forward / reverse at idle. Long time boaters are probably laughing at my 'revelation' :)

When things get busy, I wouldn't want to be trying to manouver a boat this size just on steering wheel input anymore. It just reacts so much slower with the wheel only.

Different strokes for different folks, and I don't claim to be an expert. Just my observations as a newbie to anything over 24ft in my limited experience.

Wildman_grafix 09-08-2010 02:13 PM


Originally Posted by NWPC (Post 3202464)
an Imco Scx drive with Sc lower and 5 blade Herring prop is $79,500.00. (boat included).

:lolhit::lolhit:

I thought the arnesons looked like a deal until I read the last words!

Wildman_grafix 09-08-2010 02:20 PM

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call me crazy , but one of the things that i really liked is the way the 32 sits in the water.
I agree

US1 Fountain 09-08-2010 04:45 PM

Your bilge pump is running. :)

pullmytrigger 09-08-2010 07:24 PM


Originally Posted by Rookie17 (Post 3202372)
I have a few Dodge Nationwide NASCAR engines laying around

really...do you have any sb2's ?.....Id love one for my track day Cup car

mcprodesign 09-08-2010 07:40 PM


Originally Posted by Wildman_grafix (Post 3202603)
I agree

That boat sits nice. Just some of them are too steep of an angle and the chicks covered in oil keep sliding off the sun deck :D
// I like the docking capability of a twin for sure.. Forgot about that.. I just spear mine in at 1 knot or so sometinmes if i have too. It really does not want to trun left in reverse period. On windy day's you only really get one shot at docking a single.. It's hard but doable :)

US1 Fountain 09-08-2010 08:32 PM


Originally Posted by mcprodesign (Post 3202892)
... It really does not want to trun left in reverse period.

My 27 was the same way. It would just crab walk straight backwards in reverse even with the wheel cranked to full lock, but the other direction it would spin within it's own footprint. Never could figure that out.

SDFever 09-09-2010 01:14 AM


Originally Posted by US1 Fountain (Post 3202966)
My 27 was the same way. It would just crab walk straight backwards in reverse even with the wheel cranked to full lock, but the other direction it would spin within it's own footprint. Never could figure that out.

Prop rotation

mapism 09-09-2010 02:36 AM


Originally Posted by US1 Fountain (Post 3202966)

Originally Posted by mcprodesign (Post 3202966)
... It really does not want to trun left in reverse period.

My 27 was the same way. It would just crab walk straight backwards in reverse even with the wheel cranked to full lock, but the other direction it would spin within it's own footprint. Never could figure that out.

Yep, what SDFever said.
I guess you both guys were spinning a LH prop, right?
When reversing, a LH prop spins clockwise, "pulling" the stern to stbd. This contrast the effect of the wheel steered to port, eventually making the boat go more or less straight.
When turning to port in reverse, the two effects work jointly - that's why the boat spins within it's own footprint.
You can improve the steering to port in reverse of a single LH prop boat by fully lowering the port flap and fully raising the other one, but that makes the whole maneuver a bit hairy.
With a RH prop, the effects are all the same, just the other way round.

Wildman_grafix 09-09-2010 08:15 AM

Kind of like our old direct drive ski boats that I grew up on.

Rookie17 09-09-2010 10:06 AM


really...do you have any sb2's ?.....Id love one for my track day Cup car
No SB2's, sorry. Just ex Evernham Nationwide Dodges. I have more than I need, email me if you can stomach putting a Dodge in your Chevy :) Might surprise you how cheap I'd sell them :)

Shoot me an email if you have interest so we can be respectful and this thread can stay on topic...

I'm leaving today to race at Infineon for the weekend so might take me a day or so to get back to you. But Blackberry email is the shiznit!

US1 Fountain 09-09-2010 10:54 AM


Originally Posted by SDFever (Post 3203131)
Prop rotation

I thought that to be the case, but I never had this issue with any of my other single engine boats.

vegaskeith 09-10-2010 08:34 PM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X-pVk...eature=related




Put this SB2 in it!

Emil 06-12-2024 05:38 AM

Fountain 29 fever 2006 twin engine 6.2lit.
 
Plese is there anybody who can inform me about transoms calibration, NO trim. Just if the two units should be be parallel or ......



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