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Crude Intentions 06-21-2012 04:52 AM

Staggered vs side by side
 
Mostly curious to hear from guys who have owned both and what are pros and cons of each. I understand it's a weight shift. Is the staggered merely balanced better for getting on plane or does it help handling and top speed also. Are there to side by side over staggered?

TRL505 06-21-2012 10:04 AM


Originally Posted by I.C.U.Lookin (Post 3714289)
Mostly curious to hear from guys who have owned both and what are pros and cons of each. I understand it's a weight shift. Is the staggered merely balanced better for getting on plane or does it help handling and top speed also. Are there to side by side over staggered?

No question about it...staggerd is better, faster, easier to work on etc. The only thing a non stagger is good for is docking. I have owned both...

mcprodesign 06-21-2012 10:09 AM

I have knot owned both. A 38 Staggered Has less cockpit space than a side by side or semi staggered

TRL505 06-21-2012 10:27 AM


Originally Posted by mcprodesign (Post 3714527)
I have knot owned both. A 38 Staggered Has less cockpit space than a side by side or semi staggered

Correct sir...I forgot to mention that one. Ill take speed over space any day...:evilb:

Crude Intentions 06-21-2012 11:50 AM

Ok that's what I figured. The docking issue due to the drives being closer together in a staggered?

soldier4402 06-21-2012 12:12 PM

You wont get into a staggered set up most of the time until you start talking 35 feet and above.

Crude Intentions 06-21-2012 01:04 PM


Originally Posted by soldier4402 (Post 3714642)
You wont get into a staggered set up most of the time until you start talking 35 feet and above.

Roger. My next ugrade will be to a 38 lightning. I'm still a ways out but like learning as much as possible along the way. Also like to finish my upgrade to 1600 ton master and the paycheck that comes with it before I step up in boats.

Just like I mentioned in the other thread. Do all research to be as prepared as possible.

TRL505 06-21-2012 01:37 PM


Originally Posted by I.C.U.Lookin (Post 3714616)
Ok that's what I figured. The docking issue due to the drives being closer together in a staggered?

Correct....

Crude Intentions 06-21-2012 01:40 PM

Awesome. Thanks for all the info. You guys are great. Sold me on staggered. That whole faster word usually works. Lol. I'm sure over time you will see me pop up with more ?s

Wildman_grafix 06-21-2012 02:35 PM

So would a 38 semi staggard be a good compromise?

soldier4402 06-21-2012 03:05 PM

doesnt staggered kill a lot of your cockpit space or cabin space?

TRL505 06-21-2012 04:32 PM


Originally Posted by Wildman_grafix (Post 3714759)
So would a 38 semi staggard be a good compromise?

Yes...I have a good buddy who has an 06 with stock 525's. Runs 87-90 all day. Very nice boat. Im not sure how much it saves on cockpit space. Im going to be riding with him this weekend..since my boat is still being worked on (as usual). I'll try to make an observation as to the difference in cockpit size.

TRL505 06-21-2012 04:33 PM


Originally Posted by soldier4402 (Post 3714781)
doesnt staggered kill a lot of your cockpit space or cabin space?

Not really an issue with me. Again, speed over space any day....IMO. Besides, I dont have that many friends...

575cat 06-21-2012 04:55 PM


Originally Posted by TRL505 (Post 3714835)
Not really an issue with me. Again, speed over space any day....IMO. Besides, I dont have that many friends...

Wonder why :lolhit::daz:

Kelly O 06-21-2012 05:12 PM

Full staggered provides many advantages in performance- speed, handling, balance, etc.. Ease of service is soooo much greater.

Speed vs. side by side is about 10 mph faster with same hp.

Rough water handling there is no comparison, full staggered boats have the ability to kill side by sides ( of almost any brand ) due to the better weight distribution.

Don't expect better planing with staggered boats, as most are set with high drive heights to get the big speed numbers.

Sure, cockpit space is limited but stand-up rear bolster options open that space up and keep passengers safer at speed. The sunpads on the staggered boats are huge, that is where most rafting time is spent anyway.

Expensive Date 06-21-2012 05:55 PM

They make a cool rooster tail

greg800le 06-21-2012 07:41 PM

I read in Power Boat magazine the staggered advantage is more noticable in bigger boats - 40+ feet. But can't argue with an extra 10 mph in the 35 Lightning. btw I'm a wannabe 35 Lightning owner - still looking for the right deal and can't decide if I should spend more for the 2007+ model.

RaggedEdge 06-21-2012 08:03 PM


Originally Posted by soldier4402 (Post 3714781)
doesnt staggered kill a lot of your cockpit space or cabin space?


Definetly has a negative effect on it. Just remember that the one that pays for the boat spends little, if any, time in the back seat. Those that occupy the space are along for the free ride, if not happy, they could just stay on the dock. Knew a guy that was big into the beach friendly aspects of a big cockpit, buy a tooner. Just my take on it. Having spent last saturday on Kelly O's staggered boat doing the TI Poker Run, the space is more than offset by the many advantages!

Expensive Date 06-21-2012 08:08 PM


Originally Posted by RaggedEdge (Post 3714992)
Definetly has a negative effect on it. Just remember that the one that pays for the boat spends little, if any, time in the back seat. Those that occupy the space are along for the free ride, if not happy, they could just stay on the dock. Knew a guy that was big into the beach friendly aspects of a big cockpit, buy a tooner. Just my take on it. Having spent last saturday on Kelly O's staggered boat doing the TI Poker Run, the space is more than offset by the many advantages!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3tpIjCil9kc

Here is some video of Kellys boat, at 8:40 and again at 9:10. That should settle the staggered vs side by side debate.

mcprodesign 06-22-2012 09:48 AM

you can get a sweet side by side for about a hundred grand. Take for instance the 2000 in the classifieds w # 6's. Just needs a shrt winsheild. I bet that thing will smoke every staggered boat in this thread. :D

mcprodesign 06-22-2012 10:00 AM

If you are out on the ocean all the time the staggered would be much better to handle the waves. I would think , I have never owned a staggered. but if you are like me an you spend a lot of time on the lake, any 38 will handle anything just fine. I live right by the pacific and it's pretty choppy and not much fun out there ,unless you get up at 5 in the morning. if I had an extra 50 grand I probably would've gone with the newer bottom staggered'. but the way its it's its for me, my rig is paid for and it's a lot of fun. ps there is quite a bit of room around my engines to work on them.

TRL505 06-22-2012 11:30 AM


Originally Posted by mcprodesign (Post 3715392)
you can get a sweet side by side for about a hundred grand. Take for instance the 2000 in the classifieds w # 6's. Just needs a shrt winsheild. I bet that thing will smoke every staggered boat in this thread. :D

Easy now....

mcprodesign 06-22-2012 11:41 AM


Originally Posted by TRL505 (Post 3715455)
Easy now....

;D I wish you or I lived closer.. We would have a friggin blast

RaggedEdge 06-22-2012 06:42 PM


Originally Posted by Expensive Date (Post 3714996)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3tpIjCil9kc

Here is some video of Kellys boat, at 8:40 and again at 9:10. That should settle the staggered vs side by side debate.

Have not seen that one, thanks for sharing. Kelly's boat is one very strong performer, not only the speed, it will get over the water as well.

Marginmn 06-25-2012 01:00 PM


Originally Posted by RaggedEdge (Post 3714992)
Having spent last saturday on Kelly O's staggered boat doing the TI Poker Run, the space is more than offset by the many advantages!

You've been trying forever to get a ride on that boat Forever! Did Sam finally put in a good word for you to seal the deal :lolhit:

Just checked out the video. That is an awesome running boat. Boy does it fly level.

TRL505 06-25-2012 03:31 PM


Originally Posted by mcprodesign (Post 3715459)
;D I wish you or I lived closer.. We would have a friggin blast

We'd probably both be in jail by now...lol

Kelly O 06-26-2012 05:35 AM

http://www.youtube.com/embed/zaxO2NET_P4

Cruising around 90.


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