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JD33 07-12-2012 12:05 AM

Roost??
 
Can somebody explain why some boats throw up more of a roost than others?
Beside the obvious horsepower answer, is it more to due with trimming the drives up higher?

soldier4402 07-12-2012 06:35 AM

i would think trimming.

Wildman_grafix 07-12-2012 06:43 AM

X-dimension

t500hps 07-12-2012 06:57 AM

HP doesn't really effect it. Under certain conditions a twin Bravo drive can throw a small roost.....otherwise it's rare for a Bravo boat to throw one. All of the surface drives throw water (arenson, #6, NXT, etc). The thrown water comes from the top 1/2 the blades being out of the water.

techman 07-12-2012 07:16 AM

It's all drive height/x-dimension in relation to the water surface. The props have to surface to throw the water up and back.

All surface piercing drives will do it and Bravo's will do it if they are staggered with a high x-dim. Or if you over trim to the point where the props are coming out of the water, But you would be at a ridiculous trim angle to have it happen (trailer mode). At this point the props are just sending the thrust vertically and chances are you wouldn't be moving.

HP really doesn't enter into it.

soldier4402 07-12-2012 07:43 AM

I would think if a bravo is roosting, you are loosing propulsion as that water is being unused

A.O. Razor 07-12-2012 12:06 PM


Originally Posted by soldier4402 (Post 3728413)
I would think if a bravo is roosting, you are loosing propulsion as that water is being unused

No. If thrust is lost due to high prop height, it's usually a question of using the wrong prop, or in some cases, running way too high. Everything has its limits of course, no matter which drive and prop is used. If one disregard the issues with thrown blades and ruined drives due to harmonics ect, B1, Maximus, the semi cleaver Hering and Hydro props can easily run in the surface on a B1 drive. It has nothing to do with it being a prop for a Bravo drive or the drive being a Bravo drive. Get the gearcase and prop out of the water to reduce drag, that is what it's about.


Originally Posted by techman (Post 3728403)
Or if you over trim to the point where the props are coming out of the water, But you would be at a ridiculous trim angle to have it happen (trailer mode). At this point the props are just sending the thrust vertically and chances are you wouldn't be moving.

Not only that, you will tear the helI out of the u-joints and destroy the drive.

If you wanna go fast, go high with a true surface drive. The rooster never lies.

Griswald 07-12-2012 12:24 PM

Bravo1 / Hydro P5X. The tail lays down as speed increases.

rooster tail

msobczyk 07-13-2012 12:57 PM

Staggered drives with counter rotating props will usually throw a bit of water.

kjm5125 07-13-2012 08:27 PM

If your interested in huge tails, staggered engines and surface drives and as you trim "up" the rooster will become smaller.

Expensive Date 07-13-2012 08:32 PM

So do the newer 07 and up 35 Lightnings that are staggered do they also have NXTs I thought they were XRs with a really high X and close together thats why the rooster.

A.O. Razor 07-13-2012 08:45 PM


Originally Posted by Expensive Date (Post 3729676)
So do the newer 07 and up 35 Lightnings that are staggered do they also have NXTs I thought they were XRs with a really high X and close together thats why the rooster.

The staggered 35's with 525s and 600s run XR/-2 sportmaster and an x-dim aound 18½" or so. Some with ITS, some without. There's a staggered 35 out there with NXT/SSM drives. All Fountains with NXT's run the NXT/SSM setup, for some reason Fountains don't like the NXT1.

502ss 07-13-2012 09:15 PM

My TRS's throw roosts! :evilb:

KWright 07-13-2012 09:16 PM

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35 Fountain side by side hp500's Imco scx4's trim set at 4, 3 is level. Attachment 478653

Expensive Date 07-13-2012 09:23 PM


Originally Posted by A.O. Razor (Post 3729686)
The staggered 35's with 525s and 600s run XR/-2 sportmaster and an x-dim aound 18½" or so. Some with ITS, some without. There's a staggered 35 out there with NXT/SSM drives. All Fountains with NXT's run the NXT/SSM setup, for some reason Fountains don't like the NXT1.

Ok thanks, one other question the staggered 35s what props do they use stock. And are they obscene dollars. Thanks for the info.

Helt 07-13-2012 11:20 PM

My 35' 07 staggered runs maximus 5 blade 32's. Always a rooster tail until you start to trim it.

triple 300s 07-13-2012 11:42 PM


Originally Posted by Helt (Post 3729758)
My 35' 07 staggered runs maximus 5 blade 32's. Always a rooster tail until you start to trim it.

nice boat...that the one out of canada?

gofastlvr 07-14-2012 11:25 AM

My 02 42 with 6's threw a bunch of water tucked in all the way but the higher the drive and faster the boat the less water... Same with the MTI now as speed increases and the boat hooks up the tail goes down. For the most part the more tail the more slip.

SME1 07-14-2012 01:03 PM

Here you go.... Staggered 42, -2 Sportmaster, No spacers, 7 blade Herings, drives all the way in...
http://youtu.be/9GCaFOsEql4


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