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682gold 03-27-2013 11:44 AM

Dually vs SRW
 
Ok guys I am the proud new owner of a 2000 38 Lightning and have an F-350 SRW w. 7.3. I have decided to get a newer truck because of complications with the old one. Pulling this boat should I go with a dually or stay with a SRW? My 7.3 seemed to pull it well but since I am re trucking should I step up to a DRW or SRW. In a few years I might move to a 42. What ya'll think?

POWERPLAY J 03-27-2013 11:55 AM

You could get by with SRW but the DWR would be a better choice.

Unlimited jd 03-27-2013 12:25 PM

What ya doing with the 7.3, 350 you have????

575cat 03-27-2013 01:20 PM

You might want to keep the 7.3 , chip it and convert it to a dually , I did my 99 sd I had back in the day and loved it .

Wildman_grafix 03-27-2013 02:00 PM

:poopoo::food-smiley-007::food-smiley-007::food-smiley-007:

KWright 03-27-2013 03:56 PM


Originally Posted by Wildman_grafix (Post 3893707)
:poopoo::food-smiley-007::food-smiley-007::food-smiley-007:

Wait for it!!!:evilb::evilb:

Precision 03-27-2013 04:28 PM

I recommend you look at a truck with a 24v Cummins man. I have a 2500 SRW, and a 3500 DRW both with 5.9's and both get 19+ MPG with out a chip pulling my 42. As far as DRW vs. SRW I have no good input one way or another. I have medium duty tires on my SRW and pulling the 42 with that truck feels just as solid as the dully.

hotjava66 03-27-2013 05:37 PM


Originally Posted by Precision (Post 3893808)
I recommend you look at a truck with a 24v Cummins man. I have a 2500 SRW, and a 3500 DRW both with 5.9's and both get 19+ MPG with out a chip pulling my 42. As far as DRW vs. SRW I have no good input one way or another. I have medium duty tires on my SRW and pulling the 42 with that truck feels just as solid as the dully.

You must be going downhill both ways. I like cummins motors but there isn't a vehicle made that will get 19mpg pulling a 42' boat.

JD Dearden 03-27-2013 05:57 PM


Originally Posted by hotjava66 (Post 3893841)
You must be going downhill both ways. I like cummins motors but there isn't a vehicle made that will get 19mpg pulling a 42' boat.

Ya complete bull****.

I have owned 3 dually trucks i actually am in the process of going away from a dually...

Your truck would be fine, but a dually will simple do the job better. And dont buy a 24 valve cummins it is a lateral move from your 7.3, both "good" motors but new technology is way way better. The only reason not to get one is paying for 6 tires and if you use it to daily drive, other than that dont even hesitate.

502ss 03-27-2013 06:15 PM

And we are off..... :food-smiley-007:

Likefastboats 03-27-2013 06:58 PM

Dually vs. SRW? Are we actually going down this road again? :angry-smiley-038:

575cat 03-27-2013 06:59 PM


Originally Posted by Likefastboats (Post 3893913)
Dually vs. SRW? Are we actually going down this road again? :angry-smiley-038:

We have to its the forum way . :party-smiley-004:

Likefastboats 03-27-2013 07:14 PM

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I know there are lots of guys on this forum that pull 40+ Ft boats with SRW and 1 Ton Duallys but I'm here to tell you 42 Ft with fuel and gear is pushing the limits of any 1 Ton truck. I have had many white nuckle moments with my 40 and my F350. I now use an F650. Night and day. It never struggles up hill and no burning brakes down hill. It's a pure pleaser to tow with and with the prices of new trucks closing in on 70K an F650, Kodiac or Freightliner Sport Chassis is not out of reach. Do it you'll never look back.

502ss 03-27-2013 07:24 PM


Originally Posted by Likefastboats (Post 3893931)
I know there are lots of guys on this forum that pull 40+ Ft boats with SRW and 1 Ton Duallys but I'm here to tell you 42 Ft with fuel and gear is pushing the limits of any 1 Ton truck. I have had many white nuckle moments with my 40 and my F350. I now use an F650. Night and day. It never struggles up hill and no burning brakes down hill. It's a pure pleaser to tow with and with the prices of new trucks closing in on 70K an F650, Kodiac or Freightliner Sport Chassis is not out of reach. Do it you'll never look back.

Awesome!

I want one of those for my little 30' :)

575cat 03-27-2013 07:33 PM


Originally Posted by Likefastboats (Post 3893931)
I know there are lots of guys on this forum that pull 40+ Ft boats with SRW and 1 Ton Duallys but I'm here to tell you 42 Ft with fuel and gear is pushing the limits of any 1 Ton truck. I have had many white nuckle moments with my 40 and my F350. I now use an F650. Night and day. It never struggles up hill and no burning brakes down hill. It's a pure pleaser to tow with and with the prices of new trucks closing in on 70K an F650, Kodiac or Freightliner Sport Chassis is not out of reach. Do it you'll never look back.

Allot of us would have no other use for it so its pointless , dually for sure and great working trailer brakes and keep your wits about you . oops I shouldnt say pointless , my wife would never drive something like that around to pick things up and it would be a real club to drive around empty in the snow belt .

Rbesola 03-27-2013 07:50 PM

Srw or drw will both do the job and then some. The biggest thing is stopping and that's where dodge(as much as i hate to admit it) takes the cake with Jacobs offering a true overhead compression release "jake". I want one!

JD Dearden 03-27-2013 07:59 PM


Originally Posted by Likefastboats (Post 3893931)
I know there are lots of guys on this forum that pull 40+ Ft boats with SRW and 1 Ton Duallys but I'm here to tell you 42 Ft with fuel and gear is pushing the limits of any 1 Ton truck. I have had many white nuckle moments with my 40 and my F350. I now use an F650. Night and day. It never struggles up hill and no burning brakes down hill. It's a pure pleaser to tow with and with the prices of new trucks closing in on 70K an F650, Kodiac or Freightliner Sport Chassis is not out of reach. Do it you'll never look back.

I would love to have one. I am on a race team and we yank with a Freightliner toter it is so awesome it has an auto push D and go.

98Fever27 03-27-2013 08:02 PM

All I have to say is DURAMAX !!

flat rate 03-27-2013 08:26 PM

boats have no tounge weight . no need for a dually

flat rate 03-27-2013 08:27 PM

electric over hydraulic brakes on the trailer is the most important . no surge brakes!!

575cat 03-27-2013 09:06 PM


Originally Posted by flat rate (Post 3893997)
electric over hydraulic brakes on the trailer is the most important . no surge brakes!!

A must have .

682gold 03-28-2013 05:54 AM

My trailer has electric brakes and all three axles have the brakes on them. This would be my daily driver.

MonkeySea2 03-28-2013 10:13 AM

A dually will provide better stability at highway speeds vs. SRW.

Hilgy88 03-28-2013 07:37 PM


Originally Posted by 98Fever27 (Post 3893980)
All I have to say is DURAMAX !!

Have to agree 100% and that's not just only pulling my 27

575cat 03-28-2013 09:23 PM


Originally Posted by 682gold (Post 3894133)
My trailer has electric brakes and all three axles have the brakes on them. This would be my daily driver.

Daily driver you have to remember late model DPF trucks are going to be thirsty .

oneanddone 03-29-2013 08:00 AM

After doing some research on here I would think you would be fine with just a Tundra maybe add a chip...

mike tkach 03-29-2013 08:42 AM

the best all around truck for pulling a 42 is the s10 chevy with the 4 cyl engine,diesel dually,s are too heavy and burn way to much gas and when they need new tires you need 6 instead of 4.if you get the extended cab version you can even get the 6 kids in with you.i saw a s10 pulling a 47 outerlimits on the interstate going 80 mph last week,it was a beautiful site.:food-smiley-007::food-smiley-007:

obnoxus 03-29-2013 08:49 AM


Originally Posted by mike tkach (Post 3894843)
the best all around truck for pulling a 42 is the s10 chevy with the 4 cyl engine,diesel dually,s are too heavy and burn way to much gas and when they need new tires you need 6 instead of 4.if you get the extended cab version you can even get the 6 kids in with you.i saw a s10 pulling a 47 outerlimits on the interstate going 80 mph last week,it was a beautiful site.:food-smiley-007::food-smiley-007:

Get a Toyota,,,,,it can pull the space shuttle

mike tkach 03-29-2013 08:05 PM

but i dont have a space shuttle.:party-smiley-004:

SPEEDFREEK 03-30-2013 07:28 PM

This is some funny Chit..... I'm not crazy about the electric over hydraulic only because of the delayed reaction, when some idiot pulls out in front of you it really makes your bunghole pucker.:thankyouthankyou:

mike tkach 03-30-2013 08:36 PM

he said bunghole:lolhit::lolhit:

Sydwayz 03-31-2013 11:43 AM

There is no delay on EoH if things are setup correctly. If you are experiencing this, you may need some tweaking.

MILD THUNDER 03-31-2013 09:12 PM


Originally Posted by Sydwayz (Post 3895861)
There is no delay on EoH if things are setup correctly. If you are experiencing this, you may need some tweaking.

I agree! Hands down EOH is superior to all other brake systems. Not only do they stop better, allow full control of the trailer braking, but if you've ever backed a 15k lb boat down a long steep ramp with no trailer brakes, and blew a brake line in your rig, you'll wish you had them!! Esp when your truck is under water. I remember backing my 40ft formula down steep ramps with my superduty. Friggin break pedal to the floor to try and keep the boat from draggin me in. I like my trailer brakes for backing down the ramp too.

As for the DRW VS SRW, pulling a 42 Fountain, the SRW guys will argue until they puke, that a SRW is more than enough, and fully capable. You'll get nowhere in getting steered into the right direction here, so, I say, go tow your boat with a SRW truck, then a DRW truck down a stretch of busy interstate at 70-75mph. Then let your butt decide which ones best. :gfight:

fordf350 05-01-2013 01:50 PM

Dodge trucks dont start when it rains. Chevys...Well they make a nice half ton. 2001 f-350 SRW 7.3 4x4 short bed with programmer slightly larger wheels, slotted rotors for when the ______ pulls out in front of you while you are doing 70. With a larger tranny cooler. Transmissions hate heat. 290,000 hard towing and off road miles. 2008 SRW F350 6.4 4x4 w/DPF delete happening as soon as the warranty is up. But stock it pulls harder than the 7.3 104,000 miles. Both will drag the "29" around all week. The ride in the 08 is almost Caddilac. Fuel milage aint to bad either. Ok two 350's that are SRW and work fine for most boats or trailers with mid size construction equipement. But have you given thought to a SRW F450 for the extra long rigs like 40 footers? Has only four tires but one heavy ___ suspension. Just a thought.

Jpzaluski 05-01-2013 04:30 PM

I can never get comfortable towing heavy with an SRW. If you've ever had a rear tire go away while towing heavy you'll know what I mean. A lot of my buddies tow with SRW and rib me for pulling my little 38' with a DRW and nothing else, but for me it's the piece of mind.

Fountainkrazy 05-01-2013 11:59 PM

In Cali you can't tow past 55 :party-smiley-004: low n slow

Chart 05-02-2013 02:46 PM


Originally Posted by Jpzaluski (Post 3916917)
I can never get comfortable towing heavy with an SRW. If you've ever had a rear tire go away while towing heavy you'll know what I mean. A lot of my buddies tow with SRW and rib me for pulling my little 38' with a DRW and nothing else, but for me it's the piece of mind.

Agree that a dually is better, but not for the reason you cited.

I've been in your hypothetical situation, downhill on the interstate, SRW axle, 10,000#+ trailer load and 1200# tongue weight. Blew a rear tire on the truck at 70+ mph. It was a NON-issue. Absolutely not a big deal. Drove the rig down the hill, came to a controlled stop at the bottom, changed the tire, went on. Never once did it feel squirrely, unstable, or dangerous. It might have even been more controllable because of the trailer acting as a drogue chute, but I'm just speculating on that.

dewayne6243 05-02-2013 03:02 PM


Originally Posted by flat rate (Post 3893996)
boats have no tounge weight . no need for a dually

LOL, boats have no tongue weight? Maybe your little one doesn't.


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