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682gold 03-24-2014 03:14 PM

Shorties
 
I know this topic has been beaten to death so I will be very specific in my question. I have a 2000 38 Lightning with 525sc's. I am installing a set of -2" IMCO's. My current prop is a 26 Q-iv hydramotive spinning in. My question is for those of you who have or had a 38 Fountain with small steps and have added the shorties. What props did you end up with for best overall performance and best top speed? Turning them in or out? Cut diffuser ring? Trying to get close to what I need before splashing and testing the boat.

Jpzaluski 03-25-2014 01:19 PM

I turned a 30 Bravo before shorties, and after tried the 30 Bravo, and 30 Maximus (cut down diameter) after shorties. I picked up ZERO. Boat runs flatter and rides better, but don't expect any gains based on my experience. I prefer the 30 Maximus, it's a bit over propped for me, spinning only 5000 to the wood, but it has a mean cruise.

Bawana 04-04-2014 01:59 AM


Originally Posted by 682gold (Post 4094970)
I know this topic has been beaten to death so I will be very specific in my question. I have a 2000 38 Lightning with 525sc's. I am installing a set of -2" IMCO's. My current prop is a 26 Q-iv hydramotive spinning in. My question is for those of you who have or had a 38 Fountain with small steps and have added the shorties. What props did you end up with for best overall performance and best top speed? Turning them in or out? Cut diffuser ring? Trying to get close to what I need before splashing and testing the boat.

What ratio are your drives? Are they regular Bravo or XR, XZ..etc. Reason I'm asking is your spinning a 26 now, so you might be a 1.36 . Back in the 90's and early 2000's they put a lot of 1.36 uppers in regular bravos for strength. I would run what you have (26) and see if you can borrow a set of 28 Bravo 1's and spin them in.

682gold 04-04-2014 09:33 AM


Originally Posted by Bawana (Post 4101104)
What ratio are your drives? Are they regular Bravo or XR, XZ..etc. Reason I'm asking is your spinning a 26 now, so you might be a 1.36 . Back in the 90's and early 2000's they put a lot of 1.36 uppers in regular bravos for strength. I would run what you have (26) and see if you can borrow a set of 28 Bravo 1's and spin them in.

To my knowledge they are 1:50 standard Bravo's. Not the original set that come on the boat. I spin them in already and will start with what I have. Thanks.

4bus 04-04-2014 01:40 PM


Originally Posted by 682gold (Post 4101227)
To my knowledge they are 1:50 standard Bravo's. Not the original set that come on the boat. I spin them in already and will start with what I have. Thanks.

I agree that they are prob 1.36, what are you seeing for top speed and at what rpm now? Seems like a lot of power for 26 pitch. My boat with 575s came with 32 that would hit the rev limit on cool days with 1.50 drives.

Bawana 04-04-2014 05:02 PM


Originally Posted by 682gold (Post 4101227)
To my knowledge they are 1:50 standard Bravo's. Not the original set that come on the boat. I spin them in already and will start with what I have. Thanks.

So you don't no for sure what the upper ratio is, but you got some -2 shorties???? How did you no what ratio gears to get in the lowers??? You may have changes you overall ratio from whatever you had. So, with that being said... you need a baseline (rpm & speed) of your original setup, then put on the -2 shorties and see what RPM & speed you get, and go from there.

mcprodesign 04-04-2014 07:57 PM


Originally Posted by 682gold (Post 4094970)
I know this topic has been beaten to death so I will be very specific in my question. I have a 2000 38 Lightning with 525sc's. I am installing a set of -2" IMCO's. My current prop is a 26 Q-iv hydramotive spinning in. My question is for those of you who have or had a 38 Fountain with small steps and have added the shorties. What props did you end up with for best overall performance and best top speed? Turning them in or out? Cut diffuser ring? Trying to get close to what I need before splashing and testing the boat.

Call bblades and test his props. Its realativly inexpensive. Thats where i got mine. 5 bl hydros is probably what you need. 2 inches does nothing unless you are close to the surface with the propshafts

4bus 04-04-2014 08:47 PM

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I liked back on another thread, you stated you got 81.5 mph out of your boat at 5200. You have 1.36 drives. 1.5 doesn't add up in a prop calculator

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johnnyboatman 04-05-2014 08:42 PM

if they are bravos, would the lower gears change the ratio, i thought xrs were changed in the lower

682gold 04-05-2014 09:03 PM


Originally Posted by 4bus (Post 4101601)
I liked back on another thread, you stated you got 81.5 mph out of your boat at 5200. You have 1.36 drives. 1.5 doesn't add up in a prop calculator

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Ok went testing today. I was gathering info on what I have on the boat. This is the assumption of 1:50 gears and I could be wrong. Having said that. 26 pitch hydramotive quad 4, 5400rpm, 1:50 gears (assume) 80.5 gps 9% slip on herrings calculator.


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