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Originally Posted by Tinkerer
(Post 4523669)
BS - not in rough water.
The X dimension Fountain runs in rough water will blow out. I owned a Checkmate 251 and could walk away from 27 Fountains in rough water. Maybe I was just a much better driver. Insanity can add a lot of speed in rough water. I have a video of my Scarab racing a 40 Fountain that had more HP than me and HE couldn't keep the props in the water. The video has been posted here before. please post video |
Wow just wow. I think every time someone post a thread about a new 41 outterlimits I am going to jump on about how that includes a HUGE (insert Donald's voice) brustle.
Anyway to the OP, Take Mike's advise, lake MI can get nasty fast, been out in it before on small CC's and didn't watch weather and I will tell you it is not fun. If you say that most boating will be rivers and lake and only go out when it's nice the 29 will be a great boat. Grew up in that region most don't understand unless they have boated on the "lake". If you are talking most on lake MI I think you will want something bigger, to short of a season to be sitting waiting for the lake to calm down. I also want to say during one rough Chicago poker run I know that a 28AT didn't go out. He told me it was too rough. This was when he was selling the 28 to buy a 37,,,,,,don't know if any 37's went out. If you look up the pictures that was a rough one. The old eliminator dealer has a picture of him running where I swear it looks like he is higher in the air then the chopper! |
Originally Posted by Wildman_grafix
(Post 4523733)
Wow just wow. I think every time someone post a thread about a new 41 outterlimits I am going to jump on about how that includes a HUGE (insert Donald's voice) brustle.
Anyway to the OP, Take Mike's advise, lake MI can get nasty fast, been out in it before on small CC's and didn't watch weather and I will tell you it is not fun. If you say that most boating will be rivers and lake and only go out when it's nice the 29 will be a great boat. Grew up in that region most don't understand unless they have boated on the "lake". If you are talking most on lake MI I think you will want something bigger, to short of a season to be sitting waiting for the lake to calm down. I also want to say during one rough Chicago poker run I know that a 28AT didn't go out. He told me it was too rough. This was when he was selling the 28 to buy a 37,,,,,,don't know if any 37's went out. If you look up the pictures that was a rough one. The old eliminator dealer has a picture of him running where I swear it looks like he is higher in the air then the chopper! |
Originally Posted by jwws9999
(Post 4523735)
I respectfully disagree, I boat the great lakes, and I don't care how big your boat is, when they start getting to 6 footers and above, nobody goes out, just not fun, and there's nobody else is out there anyways. As far as getting caught by the weather, I used to run a 24 Outlaw, it rattled my teeth being out there, but I was always able to make it back safely, and was never afraid
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Originally Posted by Tinkerer
(Post 4523669)
BS - not in rough water.
The X dimension Fountain runs in rough water will blow out. I owned a Checkmate 251 and could walk away from 27 Fountains in rough water. Maybe I was just a much better driver. Insanity can add a lot of speed in rough water. I have a video of my Scarab racing a 40 Fountain that had more HP than me and HE couldn't keep the props in the water. The video has been posted here before. |
I bet this guy was way behind the shallow X dimension boats with his props coming out every few seconds
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dm0RPcePjL0
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Originally Posted by jwws9999
(Post 4523697)
I have no idea why people are arguing about a subject that 95 percent of the people in this country aren't lucky enough to particiapte in. Anyways, hopefully the OP will have good luck finding a great boat.
I just sometimes feel like replying to some of the uneducated and hateful/down grading replies, and its usually from the same couple of guys. but trust me,none of this $hit is important enough to me to argue over.more important things in life than trying to convince some one on what brand boat to buy. |
DUH - because the DEEP V boat will tend to cut the top of the wave and keep the prop in contact with the water. The pad bottom tends to ride on top of the wave and bounce just like flat bottom boats do compared to a shallow v.
AND ONCE AGAIN -- I wasn't talking about 40 ft race boats. I was talking about 27 ft boats. BIG DIFFERENCE There is a video that I posted years ago of my boat racing a 40 ft Fountain. My stern and props never left the water. The Fountain was in the air most of the time. This boat would walk away from me in ANYTHING less than 3 footers. |
It think the large singles like a 29 Fountain fill an important gap for someone like me. It was big enough to run most days on Lake Lanier but small enough to fit my dock and pull it with a full size SUV.......about 8000 lbs on an aluminum trailer. The combo of the single engine and high X dimension made it ridiculously easy to work in the bilge. Slow out of the hole but would run 75 any day which was enough for me at the time. I would bet a 28 Pantera rides better and a 30 Activator is faster with same power but only from riding next to those boats on the lake.
The other advantage is a 29 Fountain has a good name (relatively) so is much easier to sell. That 28 Pantera was for sale for a year and no takers, immaculate boat but with huge power. I sold the 29 without ever putting it on the market and got what I paid for it after 3 years of ownership. |
I have a '27 I have had on Lanier for 12 years. Lake Lanier is never too rough for a '27 much less a '29. It's not the great lakes though.
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