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pachangalpina 03-29-2005 10:42 AM

Extension Box Or Not
 
I am getting ready to upgrade my power and currently have my Bravo drives mounted @ 18.5". This is on a non step 38 Fever. I am trying to decide if there is any benefit to add extension boxes that raise the drives or if I should use shorty lowers.

Thanks, Todd

Marginmn 03-29-2005 11:31 AM

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It's my understanding that using boxes allows you to run a higher X dimension because the props will be running in cleaner water. However, simply installing them without moving your engines up will actually lower your X, not raise it. I think that is how it works but I am not sure.

I hear that the stelling boxes are adjustable and allow you to raise the X via the box itself. But I have heard that stelling boxes use a ridged coupler and thus do not flex - so they are hard on the drives; while the imco boxes are not adjustable once installed, but they use a rubber coupler and they absorb some of the shock from the drives and actually help prolong drive life.

If you are going to run bigger power then imco shorties and imco boxes might be the way to go.

Marginmn 03-29-2005 11:44 AM

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Todd, did you raise the X on your boat from the original factory height?

If so, how much and what results did you obtain?

pachangalpina 03-29-2005 01:35 PM

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No, I have not changed the height and I think that they are mounted deep compared to some of the later offerings. With the advances in prop designs I feel that raising them by 2" should not be a problem.

The motors that I am going to install are 625HP so I am increasing by a little over 400HP total. I figure that I am going to keep this boat for a while and I want to plan everything out before I have to redo too many things.

Marginmn 03-29-2005 01:53 PM

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I am not adept at measuring X diminsion, but my rigger tells me that the X on my 2000 fever was very deep - 16 1/2. They say I can raise it up all the way to 19 1/2 if I wish as that is where they are coming out of the factory now.

I am thinking about getting one inch by raising the engines up and another 2 inches via imco shorties. Then we can adjust it as necessary.

DiamondPerformance 03-29-2005 08:41 PM

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Go with the IMCO box with the three inch rise since you already have the engines out and get the torsional drive shaft , much better for the drives.

Zanie 03-30-2005 07:04 AM

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Originally Posted by DiamondPerformance
Go with the IMCO box with the three inch rise since you already have the engines out and get the torsional drive shaft , much better for the drives.

...if you have room under your hatch.
The IMCO 3 inch rise boxes require you to raise your engines 3 inches. oh, then there's the exhaust.

Back4More 03-30-2005 09:46 AM

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I went with the IMCO neutral extension boxes and -2 lowers...talked to Reggie and he stated that 12" back runs 7/8" wetter...So I in turn gained 1-1/8" on modifying my "X" dia.
This was on a 1993 42' non-step.
Better check with Fountain...3" is a lot.
I would start with -2 lowers and see what happens.

Marginmn 03-30-2005 09:57 AM

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How'd the boat handle with the boxes and shorties? And did you gain any speed with that set up?

pachangalpina 03-30-2005 12:16 PM

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Who would I talk to at Fountain?

Back4More 03-30-2005 12:31 PM

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Boat handles great...still gets on plane easy as far as speed...I got 17mph out of it. :p
Talk to at Fountain...I guess one of the tech boys.

Marginmn 03-30-2005 12:38 PM

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17 MPH? Was that increase from the boxes and shorties or in conjunction with an engine upgrade?

Zanie 03-30-2005 12:55 PM

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Originally Posted by pachangalpina
Who would I talk to at Fountain?

Martin Sanborn.
He gave me some good insight on Fountains and boxes.

Back4More 03-30-2005 01:25 PM

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Oh yeah I went from 525Sc's to 800Sc's with the boxes and drives... :cool:

pachangalpina 03-30-2005 05:05 PM

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I talked to Martin @ Fountain and have decided not to do boxes or shortie drives. I am going to blueprint the bottom and change the transom cut-out. I am going to wait until late in the season and do it then. We are talking about raising the drives 1".

Back4More 03-30-2005 05:34 PM

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you could just bolt up a -1" lower...

pachangalpina 03-30-2005 05:52 PM

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I need to do some bottom work and my transom assemblies need to be removed to be refinished and will be replacing engines at the end of the season so it will actually be cheaper to raise the drives than to buy 2 shorties.


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