Outboard question -- Verados
I was told by an outboard mech that the three biggest Verados are all the same engine, and the only differences between them would be in the amount of boost and the fuel programming. Any truth to this??? :rolleyes:
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True.
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225/250/275
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So, could a rather unscrupulous boater buy the 225's for insurance purposes and turn them up to 275? :cool:
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t :cool:
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hey mike , i beta set of opti 250 xs would be a more fair comparison to the e teck . bet they would no fair so well, both are 2 stroke but evenrude will not compair appels to appels , . that opti xs will bust ther a%%%s ! :drink:
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The Opti's just might, but that trail of oil smoke behind them...
The Verado's are heavy, but the offshore fishing folks here in Miamuh are running the crap out of em. Durability issues have been zero.. Performance numbers are sweeet. Fuel economy is excellent. The E-tecs arent out there enough yet to tell. Looks like a great effort, and the weight savings is substantial. If they perform and hold up, Bomb may have a winner, particulary with the folks repowering from older two strokes.... |
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E-Tec or Yamaha, the Verado is over priced scrap.
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Originally Posted by KaamaScarab30
I was told by an outboard mech that the three biggest Verados are all the same engine, and the only differences between them would be in the amount of boost and the fuel programming. Any truth to this??? :rolleyes:
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E.K. He has Verado school scheduled later in the year.
I heard you sold the Mystique. Saw it on the GCO website. What are you getting next? |
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Have any of you guys seen the Evinrude infomercials on tv? I thought they were pretty interesting on the E-Tec.I was surprised when they compared the E-Tecs to the four strokes,if all that info is true which it probably is, I know if I was going buy a boat with outboards you would have to give the nod to the Evinrudes,they beat the four strokes in every category.
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Originally Posted by KaamaScarab30
E.K. He has Verado school scheduled later in the year.
I heard you sold the Mystique. Saw it on the GCO website. What are you getting next? |
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mike a set of 3 250 push a 34 fountain at 68. a trio of xs push it 74 . vd push it at 68 . as for the e rude put it up aginst a opti max xs and the info mercials yea right. what did they have the merc and yam proped with alum props. i need a real world test , not buy them some one like, power boat or bass master , :drink: boating ,..
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Originally Posted by fountain1fan
mike a set of 3 250 push a 34 fountain at 68. a trio of xs push it 74 . vd push it at 68 . as for the e rude put it up aginst a opti max xs and the info mercials yea right. what did they have the merc and yam proped with alum props. i need a real world test , not buy them some one like, power boat or bass master , :drink: boating ,..
So far I am real happy with EFI's even the fuel consumption. Sure there will be a 300 XS coming soon. |
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mike a set of 3 250 push a 34 fountain at 68. a trio of xs push it 74 . vd push it at 68 . as for the e rude put it up aginst a opti max xs and the info mercials yea right. what did they have the merc and yam proped with alum props. i need a real world test , not buy them some one like, power boat or bass master , :drink: boating ,..
I think I ran 8 or 10 different props on the Verado. Tests were done with the best performing prop. All was fair, and certified by an outside source. No BS testing. I won't get into this too much on the General board.. But anyone can PM me and I'll have a DVD of the infomercial sent to you. The supercharged beast is 150lb heavier than ETec, Drinks 45% more fuel, has the slowest accel of all tested, and is the most expensive. However it was definately the quietest of the bunch. 250XS does run better than the OPti, but not by much (260+hp) ETec 250 is 255hp. Merc EFI and Opti have nearly the same top speed.. Opti just runs better overall. Verado is no more proven than E-Tec. Questions? Want honest answers? PM me.. glad to help. Common misconception: Likelihood of a simple upgrade going from a 225 to 275 Verado is slim to none. See the OB mech has a computer for diagnostics. All the maps are loaded in hos computer. The software reads the serial number of the engine, and only unlocks the tune for THAT engine. The only guys that have this capibility are the engineers that developed the engine... The E-Tec 225 and 250 are the same engine...Just a different computer tune. The 200 has differnet heads. All the engines on the market today are very nice. Some just have their advantages over the others. Buyers need to do their research before jumping at something just because of the name behind the product, or current bandwagon... ***my above comments are not intended to insult, harass, poke at, or degrade the power on anyones boat.*** Me? I'm partial to the new Gamefisher 15hp.. In the twin engine setup of course.. :p |
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I haven't heard how it ran yet... Dealer was rigging it not long ago... |
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Hey Tim,
What about an Etec 300? Hard to beat the Rude warranty. |
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Johnno-
The '06 model year is coming up in July.. I know our 115,130,150,175, and maybe a 200 based on the small block, are due in October. They have been working on more HP, but I haven't been told of ETA.. It's probably going to be for the '07 lineup. What I can say is that it won't be a 300.. :D The 3.3l E-Tec powerhead has capacity to make 80hp per cylinder. That's 480hp. reliability is the factor. Going bigger than a 300 really opens a can of worms... A 400hp powerhead is no god if the lower unit won't hang together... Wouldn't a pair of 350hp OBs be sweet??? :cool: 700hps only weighing 1100lb total... So keep running the Renegade... Repower in '07!! |
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Greta info Tim
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Thanks Tim G I got the E-Tec info the other day. Very interesting, Thank You !!!!!
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Originally Posted by Tim G.
Johnno-
The '06 model year is coming up in July.. I know our 115,130,150,175, and maybe a 200 based on the small block, are due in October. They have been working on more HP, but I haven't been told of ETA.. It's probably going to be for the '07 lineup. What I can say is that it won't be a 300.. :D The 3.3l E-Tec powerhead has capacity to make 80hp per cylinder. That's 480hp. reliability is the factor. Going bigger than a 300 really opens a can of worms... A 400hp powerhead is no god if the lower unit won't hang together... Wouldn't a pair of 350hp OBs be sweet??? :cool: 700hps only weighing 1100lb total... So keep running the Renegade... Repower in '07!! |
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I love the new E-techs but one concern I have about tham is that even though they run cleaner than most four strokes, they are still 2 strokes and alot of lakes are strarting to ban them. Do you know if Evinrude is trying to do anything else about this Tim?
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tim g. thanks for the info it is great , you are not pissing on any body. it is great to hear real world info . a=nd not manufacter b s . thanks robbie :drink: :drink:
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I love the new E-techs but one concern I have about tham is that even though they run cleaner than most four strokes, they are still 2 strokes and alot of lakes are strarting to ban them. Do you know if Evinrude is trying to do anything else about this Tim?
Lake Tahoe was a big issue on banning two strokes.. Well, now the police and game commission are running ETecs... :eek: If you know of a lake that is trying to ban two strokes...let me know... I'll have BRP lawyers give them a call... :eek: The government can not regulate a technology, only dirty polution... So haveing said that, a builder could build a diesel, propane, turbine, or what ever..so long as it met CARB 3 star standards.. Certain lakes will be so strict as to not allow combustion engines.. next in line are the lakes that only allow three star engines... ETec is the cleanest, and the only engine to be both CARB and European Union certified... I think you'll see the other manufacturers putting more efforts in two strokes.. There is one big manufacturer that says it will eliminate two strokes from it's mainstream lines.... They're banking on they're new four stroke...which could be a disaster.. :( BRP builds Evinrude Two stroke E-Tecs, and we also offer Four strokes in the Johnson line (up to 225hp). The 4 strokes are rebranded Suzukis... Suzuki's 250hp is, in my opinion, the best four stroke engine out there.. I have run them all.... (is that a good thing?)..I miss my twin big blocks... but I don't miss the maintenance... Those big blocks always wanted domething from me... but these OBs... man, just hit the key and mash the throttles.. :evilb: |
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So they actually got politicians to understand that all 2 strokes aren't the same? I'm suprised but happy, thanks for the info.
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