Need to get a Marine Survey done
 

I am in in Central Ohio and need a survey done for insurance purposes. Who is close to me and can do one?

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You certainly need insurance with your business practices.

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Hey at100, we know you had some unhappy dealings with lamb but quit searching for everyone of his threads and baching him its getting old. I know you had to look for this one was it was way to old to be on the front page.

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Unhappy dealings? Absurd dealings is more like it.

Did you read this?

http://forums.screamandfly.com/forum...highlight=lamb


Because you are the ONE single person who doesn't seem to find it appalling out of the 10,000 who have read it. Sorry, but this guy has some nerve coming to this community now and asking for anything!

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I did read the whole thing and I aint saying anything about the who did who wrong thing. I'm just saying that I've noticed that every few weeks you get on here and do a search for all of lambs post and reserect them for the sole purpose of bashing him. We all know about it and its getting a little old.

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At 100plus. I opened this thread and read Lambs question then read you response and fell out of my chair laughing. Hope to see you get your mess you have had taken care of. :D

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Why is it getting old for you? Because you are a mechanic, who worked in a race boat pit crew who has ties or possible former residence in Ohio?

I understand your position, but you have to admit, if you read the whole thing, you would never let anything go out of your shop like that would you? Would you handle a customer in such a way?

If you were a marine surveryor and a member of OSO would you want to be alerted to this kind of business?

Everyone else seems to think that this man gets the notoriety he deserves.

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Well you got two things right, I am a mechanic, and I did pit crew on a few teams. I pit crewed for an NJBA team in Califonia and a Western Formula Light team in California as well. I have never lived in Ohio and never met Lamb though. I am by no means standing up for him in any way. You have a very well documented case against him and I have read it. I applaud you for actually posting proof of you claims as well, most people don't actually have any. All I was saying is that finding all of his posts and chasing him around the internet is a little childish. We are all very aware of your situation but every thread that lamb is involed in doesn't need to turn into a Lamb bashing post. I am not trying to take anything away from your situation at all here I just think your getting to the point of beating a dead horse.

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Perhaps your right, but now I have to rebuild one of the motors (so far) on top of all the other garbage, and to say the least, I am pissed.

It's my dead horse, and the only reasonable ramifications that I can put fourth. I've researched civil action and it would not be worthwhile or cost effective.

I could sign criminal complaints for threats and forgery and bring him to my jurisdiction on that, but that won't help me any monitarily nor will it prevent others from being victimized, it would just be vindictive.

I'm not looking to do Lamb any harm, I only want for him to do the right thing.

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Lamb:


If the surveyor I work with saw your work he would close your shop due to shoddy workmanship so make sure your $hit is right before you bring in a surveyor or YOU may endup paying with your liveftyle not just the surveyors fees...


BTW once the surveyor comes onsite EVERYTHING relating to the boat being looked at is scrutinized INCLUDING where it is at and what else has been done.

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npartn,
I won't go into the whole Lamb thing, at100 have continued that discussion via private messageing.
But before you post you might want to know what the hell you are talking about. A surveyor can not close a shop, he also doesn't inspect a shop or the boats surroundings. A surveryor is a third party that is brought in to inspect a boat prior to sale or for insurance reasons. All he does is give you an estimated value of a boat and a luandry list of things that it needs.

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Hillbilly and I have discussed this matter via PM. Hillbilly is in the service business and I understand his feeling that when dealing with the masses you will find many screwball customers with baseless complaints.

I pointed out to him that in no way is this situation a generalization against the business, and he has gracefully acknowledged that my complaints are legitimate.

This complaint is very specific and backed up by incontestable facts, photos and statements of admission by the seller.

Todd Lamb has violated the selling rules both here and Offshore Only for years now. He's a vendor who doesn't pay supporting vendor fees, he advertises in forums for free regularly and does nothing for this community unless it will make him a buck.

Since he has chosen to ignore this situation when he could have paid a small fraction of the repair in a timely manner and been done with it, I intend to see to it that the members be forewarned from here on out.

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Npartin....
Nice first post. What a coincidence that you come to this forum and immediately find a Lamb post to jump on.

Get the hell off of our forum.
Knob.

Haven't we already gone down the road of "Todd Lamb may or may not suck.... but don't abuse our forum to be vindictive."

Before anyone starts.... and I have explained this to AT100 on the PM.

I DON'T KNOW TODD LAMB AND I AM NOT DEFENDING HIM!
I AM DEFENDING THIS FORUM.
STOP ABUSING IT.

Mike.... as we discussed in the PM. I have been screwed too. I feel bad for you.

But if you have a problem with anyone.... please take it to them.

The fact that you got screwed does not exempt you from forum rules or ettiquette.

Pretty soon people will lose sympathy for you if you keep this up.

I just wanted to say my peace before this thread gets poofed like every other time you have done this.

Next they will poof you, too.
And everybody else who joins this site for the express purpose of airing dirty laundry.

Is this a broken record or something?

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OSO admin....

Time to take care of this. Please.

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I'll try and answer the man question. Neptune Marine, Don Blume is a marine surveyer in Cincinnati. I do not know if he travels but you might give him a call (513) 941-4700.

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Chooch.

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Oh boy, let's not start name calling, that'll get us nowhere.

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What me and Fund leave this thread dor 2 days and it goes to hell again? It was going so well, someone answered Lamb's question.

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You're right. I appologize.

I get worked up when people talk sh*t, just to hear themselves make noise.

I've associated Fund Razor to be rational and witty. When Fast Fred fired at him, I bit. wups

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Let's keep in mind, alot of Scream and Fly members are lurkers here because they don't have big bad offshore boats they tend not to participate, but they do read and they are an important part of this community. Many of them contribute and do business on this board as well.

Just because they don't post much or sometimes at all here doesn't mean they aren't respectable members of the fast boat community.

I'm not sure why the outrage is not as well understood here on OSO, but the people on Scream and Fly are mad that this happened to one of their members.

If you are going to do half ass business, rig 100+ boats unsafely, forge documents, and threaten the customer, you had better expect to get bad feedback in this world of high speed/high tech communications.

I don't need to bash. The facts and photos speak for themselves.

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WOW!!! How did I miss this???

At100Plus, Sorry to hear about your misfortune.

THANK YOU for bringing it to my attention...

I certainly will steer clear of these bad rigging habits... :eek: :eek: :eek:

By posting this info, you may have saved someone's life!
Thanks again!

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GIVE IT A FREAKING REAST ALREADY!!!! :rolleyes:

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I will.

As soon as I don't have to spend any more money correcting Lamb's crappy work, and I get a decent ride in the boat, I might cool off a bit by then.

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I can't believe that I got away with my dismissal of Fast Fraud for as long as I did.

Thanks moderators!! :D

I have now deleted it, as enough is enough.

Now go crawl back in a hole Fast Fraud.

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Yeah, me too.
Sorry. :D

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WANT TO BET that they dont look at the surroundings if a SERVICE SHOP contacts them to do a survey FOR THAT SHOP not the owner of the boat.... if the surveyer finds ANYTHING unsafe and that means ANYTHING before durring OR AFTER repairs have been made they can and have exicute a siese and desist order AGAINST the boat, the workers, the shop or anythin related to ANYTHING they find ON A SURVEY...

EXAMPLE:

boat XYZPDQ comes in for a damage survey to XYZ marine to get a hull fracture fixed... XYZ marine contacts a surveyor to survey damage for the insurance company lets say for warranty purposes... or WHATEVER... the surveyor says it is estimated as XYZ $$$ to repair and the hull is worth XYZ dollars SUBTRACT ABC due to damage... BUT after PROPPER repair...etc it would be worth XYZ dollars again... NOW heres where the stickyness comes in...... DUE TO A SHOP contacting the surveyor they have the right to see if the shop is FIT to do the repair BEFORE durring OR AFTER the repair process is finished... UPON REINSPECTION the boat looks like at100+'s boat 2 things would happen.. 1 a lock and chain would be placed on the boat with a siece and desist order that is handed down from the coastgaurd AFTER they inspect the hull as unsafe to use.. THEN step 2 would e put into motion... that repair place would NOT be allowed to touch fix or work on ANYTHING until the USCG clears them of ANY wrong doing of a similar nature on ANY hull... only at that point are thy allowed to resume business on the OTHER hulls in the yard.. the XYZ boat must be taken to another location and fixed properly pending RESURVEY and sign off from original surveyor. if the signoff DOESNOT happen the shop LIABLE for repair is held responsible ALONG with the owner fo the hull....

I work with a surveyor ON A DAILY BASIS... he has done these steps before and 1time ONLY 1 time in 45 years has he contacted the USCG and they shut down a shop but it CAN be done.

a surveyors job is to make sure the boat is taken care of properly, PROFESSIONALLY, and soundly to insure the banks, owners, and insurance companys maintain their $$$ value invested to the best of each hulls ability.... and IF a repair shop is responsible for degrading the value of a boat in a way that is preventable DUE TO SHODY workmanship they can take action against the repair shop...

AND FINALLY because a surveyor gets around and is around boats , boat owners , and big $$$ all day every day they know who is good and who isnt in the industry and when asked they CAN give recomendations of good ACCEPTIBLE shops in the area to do repairs... have a bad reputation with a surveyor.. ALL the surveyors know about it and mostlikly you wont see ANY surveyed rpairs or upgrades comming through the doors anytime soon...

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THIS IS THE REASON A SURVEYOR WOULD TAKE NOTICE and take action.....

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I'm not gonna get into a drawn out arguement with you on this, you are just plain WRONG. What you are talking about may very well be true in the COMMERCIAL boat world as in shipping or cruise ships but in the pleasure boat industry it just aint so. I will repaeat myself, in the pleasure boat industry, a surveyor is nothing more then a thrid party inspector that someone, ussualy the boat owner, hires to determine the value of a boat and give them a laundry list either for purchase or insurance reasons. He inspects the boat and it's current condition and that is it. When there is an incident involving an insyrance claim, an adjuster is sent by the insurance company, not a surveyor. He may deem that a paticular shop is not capable of preforming repairs to the desired quality, but all he can do is take the boat somewhere else, not close a shop.

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are you in Europe or soemthing?

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May happen in a "perfect" world but unfortunateltly we live in the real world.
At100, I feel for ya, it's just amazing that Lamb stays in business. It will catch up with him someday...hopefully soon

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Just find the biggest B.S. artest you know... Pay him $350.00 to write up a bunch of obvious facts about your boat that he found on OSO... then add the words "Belts could be chaffing". and there is your survey!