Thinking of switching from 31 Sonic to a Superboat Y2K, what to expect
 

I don't know why I'm even considering this since I have put so much into the Sonic, but I am thinking about a change.

What can I expect out of the Superboat? Handling, speeds, ride comfort? The Sonic is a great rough water boat, but the waters I boat on really do not get too hairy. What about difference in beam? Aside from not much cockpit room, does it help or hinder the ride. The only time we use the cabin is for the potti or for shelter from rain, no overnighting, so a plush cabin is not needed.

Thanks

Re: Thinking of switching from 31 Sonic to a Superboat Y2K, what to expect
 

Well I hate to see it since you have rebuilt just about everything on your boat. But, Superboats are built local and John C makes terrific boats, no doubt about it. Returns phone calls too. <gg> Single engine and 7 foot beam. I doubt you will find a better riding boat in that size range.

http://www.superboatonline.com/30p.html

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john is a good guy and biulds a quality boat. If youa re looking for ammenities they are a tad lacking there BUT you cannot come clos e to thier performance for the $$$. They are the corvettes o fthe baoting world. ferrari perforamnce with a chevy price tag.

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I may be the wrong person to be responding in this thread but since I have seen you boat with your lovely wife and now the new addition I have to chime in here. Superboats are decent for the money!!! The quality part I am not so sure about.

I have seen many Superboats on the Island and will admit that they are pretty quick with big power. You can not knock the numbers for the money from a superboat. But you do get what you pay for...

If I were you I would look at some other manufacturers. My choice would be Progression or Kryptonite if I were you Kendall...

Both of them are better Quality boats then the Superboat.... Just my .02

Re: Thinking of switching from 31 Sonic to a Superboat Y2K, what to expect
 

Sunsation, if you want one engine!

Re: Thinking of switching from 31 Sonic to a Superboat Y2K, what to expect
 

Hey Titan,

Please explain the specific areas where you think the quality is lacking. I know Superboats are not ALL composite material and they don't vacuum bag but what else?

Dave M.

Re: Thinking of switching from 31 Sonic to a Superboat Y2K, what to expect
 

Ya I dont question there quality at all ..everyone ive seen has been well built .And the older ones hold up very well.
Y2K will handle the rough better than a 31 sonic. However you will give up some frills

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Dave

If my comment offended anyone I am sorry. It is my opinion that the Superboats quality is lacking in the finishing dept as well as being behind the times as you have stated, not vacume bagging or using the latest composite materials. I know of a few people who have cracked their hulls. Also I have seen many come out of the shop where the engine hatch does not even close without hitting the deck of the boat. I believe because the hatch was not square when it was made. Also for the type of boating I do a 7ft beam would not do me any good for encouraging the wife to like the boat.
I do not want to turn this into a bashing session on any boat builder. Especially since I do support the local builders here on L.I. My only reason for comenting here was to lend some advice for whatever it is worth to a guy who I have boated with before. And see often at my summer house out east.

Re: Thinking of switching from 31 Sonic to a Superboat Y2K, what to expect
 

Ken -

Wassup !????

I think the biggest difference you'll see is the beam.....the one foot is definitely a big change from where you've been but many say that the narrow design really helps in rough water.

As Puder said, its the Corvette of the high performance boating world......I would do yourself a favor and at least check out some other, local builders just to compare price, etc...

The Apache will probably get wet next weekend so let me know if you plan to be around !

- -Wesa

Re: Thinking of switching from 31 Sonic to a Superboat Y2K, what to expect
 

Titan,

No offense taken. I know the competition is fierce up there. I know Supers are not perfect. I have a '24 not a Y2k. At certain angles I can see "print through" of the fiberglass mat on mine. My engine hatch is not perfect either. My cabin doors are made of starboard.

I hear statements on OSO all the time, usually without supporting info. "Cigarettes are better than Bajas", maybe so but tell me SPECIFICALLY why.

Back to the original question.... The 31 Sonic and the Y2K are certainly much different boats. The Sonic being more "pleasure" orientated, the Y2K more "race" orientated. I like my boat because of the simplicity. Nothing to rattle or break. Supers are light, fast, bare bones boats. The 7' beam does not bother me, my usual crew is 2 adults, 2 kids. If you like hauling around a lot of passengers, then it's a problem. Sonics are heavy, not so fast, solid riding pleasure boats. I was talking to a guy with a '45 Sonic. I said "this thing must handle ANY water". He said sure, but all the stuff in the cabin shakes and rattles.

Dave

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PE-
Life wil be simpler with a Y2K....

Yes they are a narrow beam, but try to measure the inside of the cockpit on both boats... Sonic wastes sooo much cockpit space with that walk around....
Y2K is a sit down boat...This is personal preference...so you decide.

The Y2k is one bad unit.... Just get an XR-ITS and more than 500hp and you'll be smilin' ear to ear... The boats are fast and handle great.

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Wes

I plan on going out to Shelter Island on Sat. morning. If you are going to be out in that direction let me know. Would love to see the new Apache in your family. Mine is almost complete. Just waiting on CMI to finish the headers and tails.

Don

Re: Thinking of switching from 31 Sonic to a Superboat Y2K, what to expect
 

What speed do they get out of the Y2K with lets say around 750-850 hp. I believe at least one was built waith a 750 or so?

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Titan, thanks for the opinion. I don't think that is bashing, but is exactly the 1st hand experience I am looking for.

Wes, Will told me Steve's boat is for sale so it is something to consider.

I know the Superboat is "bare bones". When I think about my boating habits, all we do is go from place to place. Not much hanging out on the boat anchored. If we do my wife heads straight for the sunpad to catch some rays, or to the cabin for the potti!

As far as other manufacturers, my budget is very tight!! I have done a tramendous amount of work to the Sonic and should be trouble free from now on. Fuel, maintenance, and the "double trouble" of twin supercharged big blocks has proven to be a strain on me.

Thanks for all the info!

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Pure Energy

When are you coming out to the Island? Was out there last weekend and it was pretty quiet at Claudio's. Not many performance boats out there yet?

Hope you will be out there during the LIOPA Shelter Island weekend. The dates are July 15 to July 17. We are planning a whole weekend around this years run.

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PE, if you are thinking of a 30ft single w/ 7ft beam, I would not hesitate to contact Dave Warden from Extreme Marine of Tampa. He is getting 80+ from a 496HO. And his pricing should be competitive.

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Storm

I agree the Extreme is a nice looking low deck sit down boat. And the speed for a 496 is incredible..

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DaveM, I like the superboats in general, and I think the Older ones are hardcore and cool as hell. But the fact that the door hatch is a known problem, does not fit well, and is not really strong enough to stand on, and many SB'ers are looking for an aftermarket fix, shows that SB is lacking somewhere.
This should be an easy fix for the factory. Just my $0.02.

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I work less than 30 minutes from Superboat, so checking in on a order in production would be easy as can be. But if I were looking for a larger single hot rod... Extreme(dave) would get my $$$.

http://www.offshoreonly.com/forums/a...&stc=1&thumb=1

http://www.offshoreonly.com/forums/a...hmentid=145347

http://www.offshoreonly.com/forums/a...&stc=1&thumb=1

Re: Thinking of switching from 31 Sonic to a Superboat Y2K, what to expect
 

Having spent considerable time in both Krakmeup's 2005 Y2K and in MadMax911's 30ss Sonic, I can tell you this: They are COMPLETELY different animals! Neither is better than the other, they are just different.

The SB handles like a sports car, and the sitdown seating make it even more so. It feel LIGHT and nimble. It's very simple, too. Engine access ROCKS! It's pretty spartan, though.

The Sonic feels much bigger than it is, it's a rock-solid wave-crusher. Very plush, too.



Jim

Re: Thinking of switching from 31 Sonic to a Superboat Y2K, what to expect
 

Same here but I am partial to the Progression's. The finest quality boat on the Island. And built to withstand everything you can throw at it. My last 27 was a truck. And nothing I mean not even a screw came loose for the 4 years I used the boat..

That is in my eyes is the quality that I want in an offshore boat.

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Titan, I hear ya, but I think a progession is MUCH more $$ than these other boats. And extreme has been doing very well in SVL.
Plus I saw a 27progession w/ twin OBs this weekend in Reynolds channel.
Looked nice, but why do they all have the same paint job? :D

Re: Thinking of switching from 31 Sonic to a Superboat Y2K, what to expect
 

When the new 299 Activator debuts at Jacksonville,It will put all those boats to shame.Top quality ,Handling,and speed.

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Storm

The Progression's are definatly more money than those listed above. But you get what you pay for in life. If you want quality it cost money to the best materials into a job. I am sure when you are doing the construction on your house you would choose a builder based on quality and craftsmanship and not solely based on the $.

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Hey, dont bring my house into this!!! This is about sonic an SB. :D

PE, if you are seriously considering the SB30, I would read through all the threads in the SB forum. I'm sure you'll hear all the good and bad about the boat.

Re: Thinking of switching from 31 Sonic to a Superboat Y2K, what to expect
 

Any idea on about how much they will cost with mild power? (496HO)

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Steve's SB has the best paint job of any Superboat EVER IMHO...

Its a great deal and would be a good choice.

I'll be out on the 11th...maybe I'll see you guys then !

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I think the Superboat is sweet.
Looks like a nice sit-down boat. Not many V-bottom sit-down boats to pick from. :D