View Poll Results: Would you buy an "Old School Carbon" boat?
I would buy a carbon lightweight Old School boat
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61.54%
Nope..Glass and steps for me
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7.69%
Nope...Carbon and steps for me
10
15.38%
Nope...Glass and Old School for me
10
15.38%
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Old 07-01-2005, 10:14 AM
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If a boat handles well and goes faster with steps, why get rid of them? Every time I see an Outerlimits run I'm amazed. Those guys really have their hulls figured out.
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Old 07-01-2005, 01:33 PM
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I was told that my 1982 24 Python was build out of the 24 Cig mold??? Does that sound right? Any history on the boat would be helpful!

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Old 07-01-2005, 01:43 PM
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I was told that my 1982 24 Python was build out of the 24 Cig mold??? Does that sound right? Any history on the boat would be helpful!

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Close, Python's where splashed from a Cobra hull, Cobra was splashed from a Cigarette hull and when Don Arronow owned Magnum and Cigarette at the same time He made the Cigarette mold from a Magnum. The Magnum 25 has to be one of the most splashed boats of all time!! Nice Python you got there by the way
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Old 07-01-2005, 01:48 PM
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Thanks, 3 years and all my money!!! I bought it because of the old school lines and the Arneson drive.

Lots of fun to drive!
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Thanks, 3 years and all my money!!! I bought it because of the old school lines and the Arneson drive.

Lots of fun to drive!
I bet that is a cool setup. I always that the Arneson drive was a neat concept. I would like to go with Arnesons someday. They look mean as hell!
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Wow Python82 - very cool boat - w/ Arneson drive too!! Can you post any pics of the setup - would love to see it? Magnum 27 is correct - your hull is not an exact copy of the Cigarette 24' but close enough for me. What have you got in her for power? What's the top end? Spill the beans...

This is a great poll...it is the exact dilemma that we are facing now with building the old boats (24 & 28) again from the molds my dad bought from Don A. back in the 70's. Should we use the most modern light materials or put steps in? Tough decision and I must admit I am torn on which way to go...

Lastly I want to say yes the Sonic is definitely "old school" 24 degree bottom. For those of you that don't know the larger Sonics history, the boat was originally designed by Jean-Claude Simon and my dad as a 38' Coyote/Banana. Jean Claude eventually sold the molds to Sonic sometime in the early 80's. My dad raced the first prototype 38' "Top Banana" in '79 & '80. He had it layed up VERY light. Too light actually as he will admit today - the deck literally broke in half during the Bacardi race! The boat ran 96 mph at Lake X with twin 650 hp big blocks, crash-boxes, and SSMIII's which was incredibly fast back then for a boat in that era....
For more history on the Sonic / Cotyote / Banana connection, see my thread titled "More Coyote history"...


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Old 07-01-2005, 03:29 PM
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This is a great poll...it is the exact dilemma that we are facing now with building the old boats (24 & 28) again from the molds my dad bought from Don A. back in the 70's. Should we use the most modern light materials or put steps in? Tough decision and I must admit I am torn on which way to go...

For me I would rather have a a straight vee with a Kevlar carbon fiber layup instead of a stepped hull in a boat that is under 30+ feet in length. Boats that size I don't feel get the full benefit of steps unless they are 35 feet or more in length. When it comes to a 24 or a 28 foot boat, I think a straight vee with maybe a notched transom is the way to go. But that is just may opinion and you know what they say about opinions.
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The Compliments mean a lot!!
Running a 468 with some parts like , Merlin heads and intake, Demon Carb, and all MSD. Top speed is around 65mphs Going to start working on a 572 this winter! I was going to do some before and after pics when I get out of the shop (havin a scoop painted for the sundeck).
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Old 07-01-2005, 04:41 PM
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Sometimes different is not always better. I think the
"Old School" is hard to beat. You don't see Velocity
with steps. A Velocity 320 with 496 425hp HO will almost
hit 90 stock. and it is a safe boat. A 31SS Sonic with the same
engines will probably do close to 80. I doubt a stepped hull
would ever pass either one of these boats in 3 to 6 foot seas.
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Didnt Sonic go to a pad bottom , not to long ago ?
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