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flash_e 07-30-2005 08:59 PM

Cat Towing Question
 
I was just wondering if it is legal to tow a 40' cat on a tilt trailer with any truck other than a semi? We were thinking about getting a 2500HD and wanted to make sure it could tow it. I am not familiar with the towing regulations for cats and was wanting input on the subject since we are considering purchasing a cat (kind not yet decided on). Thanks

Byrdman 07-30-2005 09:14 PM

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Yes it is....at the least you need a 1 ton dually..gooseneck trailer..with a very good breaking system on trailer...anything less is poor judgement..even then it is still not the best..you should really be in something bigger than a 1 ton...sway and stopping are your concerns.

FREEDOM US1 07-30-2005 10:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Byrdman
Yes it is....at the least you need a 1 ton dually..gooseneck trailer..with a very good breaking system on trailer...anything less is poor judgement..even then it is still not the best..you should really be in something bigger than a 1 ton...sway and stopping are your concerns.

Gooseneck is not necessary.

lucky strike 07-31-2005 07:20 AM

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If you have the money for a tilt trailer and 40 cat, be safe and buy a medium duty truck (top kick, freightliner, sterling, international) they all pretty much have the same horsepower (300) as the duramax but the brakes are bigger and it will feel more stable going down the road.

The Menace 07-31-2005 07:40 AM

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I have a conventional goose neck trialer. Combined weight of trailer and boat are 17,000 lbs. Using anything less than a dually will result iin the trialer constantly weaving slightly back and forth.

MarkSmith 07-31-2005 08:44 AM

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I have a fifth wheel cat trailer and was surprised on how much of a difference there is in towing. My boat, trailer, gear, and etc. is 17,000-18,000lbs and my 1 ton crew cab used to get jerked all over the road. Now it is 100% better. I would recommend at least a 450-650 for towing. Get the best brakes money can buy for the trailer. Electric over hydralic with a inertia brake controller or the new Fords have a brake controller system built in the dash that works with your anti-locking brakes system.

Don't even think of towing with anything but a dually. The larger the wheel base, the better. The extra wheels in the back keep you straight when towing. The dually has incredible resale.

2boatpoor 07-31-2005 02:11 PM

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Confused Yet ? I'm pulling a 39' MTI all over the Midwest with a Ford Excursion 6.0 Diesel...good trailer brakes a must , of coarse...will cruse 75-80 all day. By the way , the MTI is for sale

flash_e 07-31-2005 02:39 PM

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Originally Posted by 2boatpoor
Confused Yet ? I'm pulling a 39' MTI all over the Midwest with a Ford Excursion 6.0 Diesel...good trailer brakes a must , of coarse...will cruse 75-80 all day. By the way , the MTI is for sale

Are you using a tilt trailer and do you experience the sway while towing at those speeds? Lets see some pics of your boat? Just curious how you like your boat and why you are selling it. PM if you would like.

damdonzi 07-31-2005 03:24 PM

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If you're going to spend around $65K on a tilt trailer, you should be thinking about an F450-F550+.

Sean H 08-01-2005 12:12 AM

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if your gonna do it, do it right.... :cool: :cool: :cool:

Sean H 08-01-2005 12:15 AM

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:cool: :cool: :cool:

Sean H 08-01-2005 12:16 AM

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:cool: :cool:

James 08-01-2005 05:06 AM

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Check the DOT rules before purchasing a truck or trailer - Anything over 10'-0" is considered a wide load in most states - The weight becomes and issue as well as the lenght -

Florida for isntance requires a 26,001 lbs registered GVW vehicle for all loads over 12'-'-0 and OR with weight of 15,000 lbs - of curse then you have a CDL rig with additional insurance issues etc... South Carolina stipulates what size truck based on the load width not weight ??? a load 10' - 12'-0" requires a 1 1 /2 ton truck ?

I know not many people pull the loads as wide loads - however the issue becomes a problem in the event of an accident - Wide load permits are not a big deal - can ususally be gotten on line and you have to put a few ugly flags on the trailer - On the east Coast Georgia will eat you alive if you are dragging an unpermitted load through that state -

dank368 08-01-2005 07:57 AM

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here's another sweet, tilt trailer rig:
http://www2.hotboat.com/image_center...2595gibson.jpg

Buddy OO 08-01-2005 08:02 AM

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Tilt trailers get a 12' beam boat to 10'6" still a wide load and is 13' tall. Have spoke to Bill at Myco in detail. I think they are a waste of money . they dont gain you anything and Myco is 80k for the trailer.Regular gooseneck trailer with good tires and brakes and a 1 ton dually will handle it without problem. The 650's are very nice to tow with.

44MTI 08-01-2005 08:51 AM

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:D The Tilt trailers will get you legal in width if set up properly.They are approx. $65K nicely set up, you can get them a little cheaper but not much.Your next problem however is going to be weight, they weight about 7500#, which is alot more than a regular trailer. You will want to know how much your boat is going to weight and add these together to find out if you will be legal. You will need at least a dually and a 5th wheel type trailer because the trucks are rated for a higher towing capacity with these types of trailers.Also the new ford F350's have a higher limit than anything out there right now, good luck. You should be fine with a dually. Oh and my MTI is also for sale, only because I want a new one and the MTI's are only 10'6' wide which helps alot when towing. :D

Sean H 08-01-2005 09:54 AM

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Originally Posted by James
Check the DOT rules before purchasing a truck or trailer - Anything over 10'-0" is considered a wide load in most states - The weight becomes and issue as well as the lenght -

Florida for isntance requires a 26,001 lbs registered GVW vehicle for all loads over 12'-'-0 and OR with weight of 15,000 lbs - of curse then you have a CDL rig with additional insurance issues etc... South Carolina stipulates what size truck based on the load width not weight ??? a load 10' - 12'-0" requires a 1 1 /2 ton truck ?

I know not many people pull the loads as wide loads - however the issue becomes a problem in the event of an accident - Wide load permits are not a big deal - can ususally be gotten on line and you have to put a few ugly flags on the trailer - On the east Coast Georgia will eat you alive if you are dragging an unpermitted load through that state -

8'6" or wider is techinically a oversized load i think in every state....

OGHillside 08-01-2005 10:43 AM

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Link to Auction
http://i9.ebayimg.com/03/i/03/dc/17/44_3.JPG
$45k OBO

OG
517-202-6611

Sean H 08-01-2005 11:30 AM

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nice rig.... :cool: :cool: :cool:

44MTI 08-01-2005 11:34 AM

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You may need that for your new boat birthday boy. :D :D

Sean H 08-01-2005 11:41 AM

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Originally Posted by 42MTI
You may need that for your new boat birthday boy. :D :D


thats what i was thinking... but i better get the boat first, i might need the extra 45k for drives and rudder.... :D :drink:

44MTI 08-01-2005 11:44 AM

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Did you say RUDDER.
I hope its attached to an MTI, maybe we can get a group discount,Me You Delo and Farley. :evilb: :evilb: :evilb:

Sean H 08-01-2005 11:49 AM

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Originally Posted by 42MTI
Did you say RUDDER.
I hope its attached to an MTI, maybe we can get a group discount,Me You Delo and Farley. :evilb: :evilb: :evilb:


opps, did i type that? :D yeah, rudder, i figure what's the point of a 39 with sixes when i can just get a 42 or 44 with shafts and rudder... hell, its just money.... :rolleyes: :drink:

plus there is a couple of boats up here at LOTO that i need to smack around a little.... :D :drink:

44MTI 08-01-2005 01:05 PM

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LMAO :D

OU Want Some?!! 08-01-2005 04:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Sean H
there is a couple of boats up here at LOTO that i need to smack around a little.... :D :drink:

Okay, Okay....when do you want me to come up??!!



You're worse than a LITTLE BROTHER!! Now that your 30! you're gonna have to fight some of your own fights!! :rolleyes: :evilb:

Sean H 08-01-2005 05:46 PM

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Originally Posted by OU Want Some
Okay, Okay....when do you want me to come up??!!



You're worse than a LITTLE BROTHER!! Now that your 30! you're gonna have to fight some of your own fights!! :rolleyes: :evilb:


your on the list i want to smack around..... :evilb: :D :evilb:

so i figures some 575's in a MTI should do it.... :D :drink:

44MTI 08-01-2005 06:35 PM

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OUCH. :eek: :eek:
I mean ataboy, MTI brother. :D :D

fund razor 08-02-2005 02:06 PM

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From this thread I have learned that the absolute most important thing.... more important than anything else...

no matter what tow vehicle you choose...

It MUST be painted to match the boat. :D

I guess if it looks cool enough, the cops will assume that you are legal and legit. And the ladies will love it, too.


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