Twins trouble
 

My other boats were all singles and I never had much problem with them but my inward rotating twins on the new sled are kicking my azz, granted there was alot of wind blowing me around around but still I shouldn't have had the bear of a time I was. docking was a biyotch:eek: :eek: :eek:

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My twin came inward. Switched it after a few hours running. Not sure how much top end I might have lost...if any, but it handles much better spinning out.

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Yup, most twin set ups that spin in suck around the dock. Especially if they are staggered. Talk with the boat manufacturer and see if they tested the boat spinning out and what you will loose. 2-4 mph isn't bad if you have control.

Just my .02.

John S. :D

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Let them rotate in and buy a long dock line...can't beat top end...just my .02

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Aint that the truth!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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You finally got that thing on the water??!! :eek:
You hittin the water this weekend, maybe I bump into ya..... :drink:

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Well half the problem I know is not knowing where the hell the outdrives are because the Imco steering doesnt re center or at least stay in the same poss so you can at least orient yourself. I know it just takes a little time but this stuff is totally making me feel like a rookie.

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I know this goes against what you think is correct but I have run alot of staggered boats with props spinning in......when you get close to the dock the props actually throw the boat the opposite way that you would think they would so when you get close try using the other engine that to twist it around with. It takes getting used to but if you practice around some rubber bumpers that you can hit with out damaging your boat or anything you CAN AND WILL get the hang of it. Good luck

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dont feel bad last week was my first time out with twins spinning out and i had the same problem not knowing where the drives were. i gonna practice low speed handling next time i go out. practice bro

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If your used to a single just shut one egine down :rolleyes:

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My 33 Powerplay has a full stagger with 3 blade Mirage's turning in and it's pretty easy to dock.....really surprized me the first time I tried it.
I had the opportunity to drive a '03 35 Fountain a few years ago that had props turning in (not sure if it was staggered) and it was very hard. I ended up using only one motor to dock. I guess it depends on the boat.

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Maybe Mr. Stinson could give us all lesons? :D

I remember being on a 42' Cigarette with 1,000+ blower motors at the Miami show a few years ago with Stinson, Jeffrey (BG1), and Troutly. Sean was driving the boat. It was slightly windy, a little bit of chop (maybe 6'-10') and he friggin parallel parked that surging beast right between 2 other boats at the gas dock. :eek: He just zig-zagged that thing in there. I wouldn't have the balls to do that in a million years.

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I have found that I have to use the wheel a bit to bring the stern in. IT's tough but once you get used to it no big deal it just takes forever to get it to walk over.

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Metal - I hear you on the step up to twins. Going through it myself this summer. Got my new ride in March, so I'm a little ahead of you on the learning curve. I second the vote to just go out and practice on a slow day (i.e. during the week if possible) with about 100 fenders up on your boat and/or the slip/dock. For the first month or so I just gave up and was using one engine and docking like a single, but after some patience and quite a bit of practice, I've been able to figure it out and am doing really well now. Do have to agree that not knowing where straight is on the drives is a royal pain in the a$$, but you'll get used to that too. Usually shouldn't need to touch the wheel when docking with twins, just leave it straight. Have faith and confidence, you'll get it. FYI - 2000 38' Fountain turning in.

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I was on the same beast/same timeframe with Sean, Steve, and Batgirl a different day, and the boy can drive.

As for driving with twins, when I approach the place where I am going to dock, I make sure I center the drives, but placing the boat in idle forward on both drives, and correcting the steering wheel until the boat moves straight. If I don't have time or room to do such, I will place the drives in neutral and walk back and look over the transom to correct. From then on, the only corrections/direction changes are made with the shifters and a zing of the throttle to pop the boat one way or another. My twins spin out.

A trend I did notice with the SCOPE guys though, its they drive their twins like singles... some of them that is. They use both drives in the same direction, and use the steering wheel when piloting around the docks. I find that piloting a twin around the docks is MUCH easier by using the drives independently, and NOT touching the steering wheel.

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That technique doesn't work with the props spinning in!! I was just getting the hang of it with the Bullet!!! Haven't figured out the TG yet, but I'll be working on it this Sunday. :cool: :cool:

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It would be really helpful if there was a drive indicator that showed the position in real time.

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My neighbor has a Bayliner that has a gauge on the dash that tells him which direction the drive is pointing.

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Can you see if livorsi or another one of your vendors makes one for me Fred? Also when you find out when the next KPM shipment comes in let me know, I have these ugly brass plugs in those beautiful strainers you sold me.

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Perhaps still keeping the drives pointed straight, but NOT using both drives in gear at one time. I mistakedly had my props reversed one time, and had to do it this way.

I still kept the drives straight, but only placed one drive in gear, and throttled up that side to push or pull the bow around.

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Ken,
Quite your whining and show us pics of your new boat! :D
Dean

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Please Craig that Tiger had the drives turning in and a 1600 rpm blower surge for the WOW factor....just practice some more bro....As for the SCOPE guys ask DMan how fast he can dock a boat and how much the gelcoat repair was.... :eek: :D :cool:

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:eek: :D :drink:

I go by the golden rule while docking...Don't move the boat any faster than you want to hit the dock!!!!!!!! :evilb:

Did you get my email??? :cool:

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I was just jammin on you bro to see if you were out there.....just fired up the computer will check email in a couple of minutes bro

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Hey Sean, it's the other Stinson from Buffalo. How you been?