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mr_velocity 08-28-2005 04:30 PM

Starboard
 
I need a backing for some cushins, what's the difference between Starboard and Starboard XL (lightweight)? Can I use the lightweight? It's non structural, just need something to staple to.

Pure Energy 08-28-2005 04:45 PM

Re: Starboard
 
Can't answer your question but I have a sheet of 3/4" I'm not going to use. If you need it let me know.

cuda 08-28-2005 05:50 PM

Re: Starboard
 

Originally Posted by mr_velocity
I need a backing for some cushins, what's the difference between Starboard and Starboard XL (lightweight)? Can I use the lightweight? It's non structural, just need something to staple to.

Yes. I used light for my upholstery backing.

mr_velocity 08-28-2005 06:04 PM

Re: Starboard
 
Now I see that have starboard, starboard XL and starlite. Just put in an order for some starlite, 30% lighter than starboard. I also need to build cabinets, was going to use starboard but may use a combination of starboard and starboard XL to save weight. Appearently the XL does not have nice edges like starboard.

mr_velocity 08-28-2005 06:05 PM

Re: Starboard
 

Originally Posted by Pure Energy
Can't answer your question but I have a sheet of 3/4" I'm not going to use. If you need it let me know.

I'll let you know, might be too thick for what I need.

Where do you get it? Is there a place local in NJ? Best price I could find was in FL for the Starlite.

Pure Energy 08-28-2005 06:24 PM

Re: Starboard
 
I think I bought it from a place in PA. They shipped it FedX freight and I had to pick it up at the FedX warehouse.

cuda 08-28-2005 06:59 PM

Re: Starboard
 
I buy it from a place in Orlando called Farco Plastics. It's actually not starboard, but another of the same thing called seaboard. It also comes in light. There is a Farco in Clearwater Florida too.

mr_velocity 08-28-2005 07:13 PM

Re: Starboard
 
Just bought the first batch for the cushins at MariSafe. I am still going to need a lot more for all the cabinets. Gotta find the glue too.

cuda 08-28-2005 07:21 PM

Re: Starboard
 
I'm told there is no glue that holds it well. At Farco, they told me that 3M makes an epoxy that somewhat holds it.

woogie 08-28-2005 08:08 PM

Re: Starboard
 
I have used Buck Woodcraft in Marathon Fla. John Arbuckle. Here is link:http://www.buckwoodcraft.com/king_starboard.htm
Sells 6 colors of Starboard in sheets and by sq.ft. Ships same day. The adhesive most use is 3M Scotch Weld DP8005. Use a real a top quality router bit.

Ed 08-28-2005 08:40 PM

Re: Starboard
 
What you guys are looking for is PVC board, not Starboard, in any version. Starboard & all the other brand versions of it, are high-density polyethylene. As noted previously, it cannot be chemically bonded with any type of glue. It can only be mechanically fastened with screws, through-bolted, etc...PVC is what most quality marine upholstery manufacturers have replaced their wood with, beginning about five years ago. It can be glued with conventional PVC cement, takes a staple well, & can be worked with conventional wood-working tools. It can also be sanded, heated & formed, unlike high-density polyethylene. Its light weight is probably it's best attribute though. It can be purchased in 4' x 8' and 4' x 10' sheets, in 1/8", 1/4", 3/8", 1/2" & 3/4" sheets at any wholesale plexiglas or plastics house. It is available in a couple different grades, depending on the quality of the finish you desire. The smoother the finish, the higher the price. You don't need the smoothest finish version, unless it is exposed on the bottom of a cushion, etc... It is available in white, gray & black...white being the most popular. Farco Plastics is a good source, so is Piedmont Plastics. Hope this helps. Ed

mr_velocity 08-28-2005 09:03 PM

Re: Starboard
 

Originally Posted by woogie
I have used Buck Woodcraft in Marathon Fla. John Arbuckle. Here is link:http://www.buckwoodcraft.com/king_starboard.htm
Sells 6 colors of Starboard in sheets and by sq.ft. Ships same day. The adhesive most use is 3M Scotch Weld DP8005. Use a real a top quality router bit.

Has a lot of great information on the site but he's a little pricey.

bkns84 08-28-2005 09:26 PM

Re: Starboard
 
HDPE (high density polyethylene) can be formed if heated to about 300 degrees and holds its shape much better than starboard, which needs to be heated to about 500 degrees to be formed. Starboard is pure, Starboard XL is recycled material. Either starboard holds a staple fairly well as long as the pull is perpendicular to the staple, if the pull is vertical it does not hold well unless 1/2" staples are used in 1/2" material, even then it is marginal. The HDPE is about twice the weight of starboard. Forget about gluing, screw it.

Bob
Bilt-Rite Uph.

cuda 08-28-2005 10:10 PM

Re: Starboard
 

Originally Posted by Ed
What you guys are looking for is PVC board, not Starboard, in any version. Starboard & all the other brand versions of it, are high-density polyethylene. As noted previously, it cannot be chemically bonded with any type of glue. It can only be mechanically fastened with screws, through-bolted, etc...PVC is what most quality marine upholstery manufacturers have replaced their wood with, beginning about five years ago. It can be glued with conventional PVC cement, takes a staple well, & can be worked with conventional wood-working tools. It can also be sanded, heated & formed, unlike high-density polyethylene. Its light weight is probably it's best attribute though. It can be purchased in 4' x 8' and 4' x 10' sheets, in 1/8", 1/4", 3/8", 1/2" & 3/4" sheets at any wholesale plexiglas or plastics house. It is available in a couple different grades, depending on the quality of the finish you desire. The smoother the finish, the higher the price. You don't need the smoothest finish version, unless it is exposed on the bottom of a cushion, etc... It is available in white, gray & black...white being the most popular. Farco Plastics is a good source, so is Piedmont Plastics. Hope this helps. Ed

Does it resist bending in heat as much as starboard does? I'm wanting to make a sunpad, but I know it will warp from the heat unless I build something below it, which defeats the purpose of the starboard.

mr_velocity 08-29-2005 08:11 AM

Re: Starboard
 

Originally Posted by bkns84
HDPE (high density polyethylene) can be formed if heated to about 300 degrees and holds its shape much better than starboard, which needs to be heated to about 500 degrees to be formed. Starboard is pure, Starboard XL is recycled material. Either starboard holds a staple fairly well as long as the pull is perpendicular to the staple, if the pull is vertical it does not hold well unless 1/2" staples are used in 1/2" material, even then it is marginal. The HDPE is about twice the weight of starboard. Forget about gluing, screw it.

Bob
Bilt-Rite Uph.

Weight is my biggest issue especially when adding it north of the CG.


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