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CCPerformance 08-28-2005 07:59 PM

Bravo One Help - Stuck in drive position????
 
Anyone have a clue on this one? Someone put my friends boat in neutral while just coming off plane. The idle was prob at about 1500 ish which is about 500rpm higher that it would normally allow you to shift. That motor may have stalled. Not sure in that it happened too fast.

What is for sure is that the drive is stuck in Forward position. The stick won't go into neutral. It comes back only enough to bypass the neutral safety and allow the motor to start, but its starting in gear.

We tried rotating the prop by hand and it's stuck. Is the cone clutch somehow jammed? Any ideas on an easy way to rectify this?

Any help would be greatly appreciated he's supposed to go away on a boating trip in a few days.

Harvey 08-28-2005 08:03 PM

Re: Bravo One Help - Stuck in drive position????
 
Yes, your clutch cone is stuck. The same thing happen to me a few years ago. Had to replace the top section of gears with the clutch. No big deal for a good mechanic.

FOUNTAINATLAST 08-28-2005 08:05 PM

Re: Bravo One Help - Stuck in drive position????
 
I would inspect the cables for any signs failier first. Disconnect the cables at the transom bracket and move the shifter then the transom pivot see what cables move and go from there, keep us posted.

baronmarine 08-28-2005 08:11 PM

Re: Bravo One Help - Stuck in drive position????
 
sounds like a job for mr gadgets / dick trace on this site. he lives in the holland,mi area. give him a pm he's the best.
todd

rush 08-28-2005 08:40 PM

Re: Bravo One Help - Stuck in drive position????
 
I had something similar, shift cable was jammed in top of outdrive where cable connects to drive shift fork.

CCPerformance 08-29-2005 12:49 AM

Re: Bravo One Help - Stuck in drive position????
 
Hey Rush:

How did yours occur? Could you move the prop? Cables up to the transon are fine I think its either coen clutch or perhaps something with teh cable at the drive.

Harvey:

How much was the repair?

rush 08-29-2005 06:41 AM

Re: Bravo One Help - Stuck in drive position????
 
When pulling into slip I pulled shifter from forward to reverse quickly,it jammed,it was a bracket that holds cable to shift fork in top of drive .

Afriend fixed it. easy job.

Payton 08-29-2005 06:52 AM

Re: Bravo One Help - Stuck in drive position????
 
I have "welded" my cone clutch before, but that was on an overrev when I didn't get the throttles pulled back on a launch. Cost is about $1,100 in parts. I had a friend break the shifting bracket ( piece that detaches from the shfting fork when you remove the drive) doing just what you did. His parts were about $15.

Payton 08-29-2005 06:54 AM

Re: Bravo One Help - Stuck in drive position????
 
I have "welded" my cone clutch before, but that was on an overrev when I didn't get the throttles pulled back on a launch. Cost is about $1,100 in parts. I had a friend break the shifting bracket ( piece that detaches from the cable when you remove the drive) doing just what you did. His parts were about $15.

PatriYacht 08-29-2005 07:13 AM

Re: Bravo One Help - Stuck in drive position????
 
I second Mr. Gadgets. If you're handy enough to pull the outdrive off, take it over and he'll have it fixed in no time.

Mr Gadgets 08-29-2005 07:17 AM

Re: Bravo One Help - Stuck in drive position????
 
CC,
I would check the cable and shift linkage first. You can drain the drive 1/2 way and pull the back cap. Look at the shift fork/shift rod and have someone roll the motor over, with the kill cord pulled, and see if the cable is trying to move the shift fork cams. If it is trying to rotate and the cone and it wont come out of the gear, then it should be torn down. You might be able to pry the cone out, but if it is welded, well thing big money..

Hope this helps.. If you need some help walking through it.. give me a call in the evening.. 616-335-8446. Be glad to do what I can on the phone..

Dick

Gordo 08-29-2005 09:02 PM

Re: Bravo One Help - Stuck in drive position????
 
Funny this thread comes up when it did. Have a friend in a 31 Formula that was running in our group doing the Big Dicks run last weekend who got some air, missed on the throttle and "zinged" it a little, then "caught hard" (his words) when it landed. When we arrived at BD's he realized he was stuck in forward on one drive. I unhooked the primary shift cable and found things free and easy up to the shifter, but the lower was still stuck in position. I told him it could be a lower cable/shift arm problem, but was most likely a welded cone clutch. Told him he could run the rest of the weekend but having reverse in only 1 motor was gonna make docking a bytch. I'll have the boat this week so I can pull the drive and do a proper diagnosis.
Assuming it is a welded cone clutch, what all will I need and who has the best prices on parts? I have a Bravo manual, (I think), but may want to call on you Dick for any hints you may have.

Panther 08-29-2005 09:05 PM

Re: Bravo One Help - Stuck in drive position????
 
Did that once,,,, 1 hr later the drive blew..... :mad:

Mr Gadgets 08-30-2005 04:57 AM

Re: Bravo One Help - Stuck in drive position????
 
Gordo,
Feel free to give me a call!! Is this a standard Bravo? If so, you cant order old parts anymore. Have to find them new old stock or used. Merc doesnt offer them anymore. They sell an upgrade kit to switch to the thicker floor gears and new clutch that goes with. The kit comes with everything for the upper housing. Makes for a nice rebuild. I have been putting steel towers in them also. Eliminates the next weak link and almost makes them an X drive..

616-335-8446 home 5pm - 9pm
616-403-1006 cell.. during the day

Gordo 08-30-2005 10:11 AM

Re: Bravo One Help - Stuck in drive position????
 
Dick,
Yup, standard 1988/1989 Bravo I drive. I'm looking for a used upper now, but would take a used complete drive if the price was right. Then he would be on the water for the big weekend coming up and gives me time to go through his old drive.
I wish I could talk him into a pair of new drives, but he doesn't want to spend that much.
Thinking I'll be talking to you soon... ;)

Mr Gadgets 08-31-2005 04:57 AM

Re: Bravo One Help - Stuck in drive position????
 
Gordo,
I sent you a PM... did you get it?? I know of a used drive out there, in good shape..

Dick

Gordo 08-31-2005 05:48 AM

Re: Bravo One Help - Stuck in drive position????
 
Got it. Thanks. Will be talking with you soon.


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