i'd listen to DJD and Waterspeed. If they couldn't break it or roll-it, then it really is safe and stable 'cause God knows they're a bit nuts!!! :D

Russ,
The poker run is in late April. When I get more details I will post them.
Hope you can make it, we should have a good turnout for this event. If you
are thinking about coming and need slip accomodations, call Chris at
LightHouse marina 803-749-1554 ASAP. Let me know if I can help!

I went through a lot of boats! Bought a Cigarette years back then sold it (could not refuse the offer) then went through many other boats. I always compared the other boats to the Cigarette but there was no comparison. Went back to Cigarette. You pay more but it's worth it!

AC

:D :D

kwb....I know what you should get!!!! Since you change your mind like the wind changes directions.....you should get a Big Ass Sailboat!!!!!! With #6's on it!!!!!!!

DMan!!!!!

D- that's a good idea, that way when I break down I can still count on the wind to bring me home!

pug-pug / ruff ruff / yipe yipe

Kenny - Sean Stinson has driven both extensively. He came up to the SCOPE Poker Run last year in a 37' Outerlimits with #6's and big power. The water was extremely rough. I specifically recall him saying that the Outerlimits DID NOT handle the conditions as well as the Cigarette would have. He definately said that he got beaten up more in the Outerlimits and that the Cig was by far a better ride. That being said ... I don't think you can go wrong either way. Both are excellent boats, both have an excellent reputation, and both will hold their value. It really comes down to which one you like better. Also, didn't you tell me you have about $10k worth of Cigarette clothing?? You would have to redo your whole wardrobe!! Hmmm ... I think your stuff would fit me! I'm offering $0.10 on the dollar! :D

That's funny Jeffrey - you could get your jacket back...

The wardrobe is definately a factor in this!

I want to talk to you about the Tiger. I'll call you later.

i had 2 outerlimits the 37 is the safest
and best running boat and with merc 900
no cig will be able to stay with you,no
matter what sea conditions,those 37 run
more stable at over 100 than most boats at 80,they were designed by engineres not
ny business men,from a resale stand-point
they also cannot be beat good luck
PETE
42 OUTERLIMITS
NO DISCIPLINE

kwb OL is faster till it's wicked. After that it's over. I've done both and there is no comparison. It all comes down to where you are goin and how badly you wanna get there. Good luck. Nauti Kitty :D

Duhhhh!!!!....“HellOOOO......Mcfly”!!!

*“CIGARETTE”*

KWB.....We have had this conversation stud if you want I will run the **** out of you in all of them and you can decide from there and next time clarify which Cigarette Dealer you're talking about because it wasn't me that particular statement targeted. If you're gonna do this test it all needs to be done the same day up by the Queens gate with 6-8's outside and I can guarantee what you're battered body will buy at the end of the day.....Sean

So Stinson what will his battered body buy????? Enquiring minds have to know.... :D :D

Jeffrey,
It was a 42' not a 37 and it had 1200 Sterlings.....It and Bob Russell's boat rocket were the first two boats at all the card stops his being a bit faster than me but we still ran 120+ mph all day long.....After reaching Catalina we waited for about 20-25 minutes for the rest of the fleet to catch up.....If you could combine both boats into one....you would be stepping up into a fast Apache quality boat......Sean

I have spent considerable time in both boats. The Outer Limits is faster and has more room in the cabin. The Cig handles better in the big water and has an overall smoother ride. I guess it would depend on where I would be boating the most.

hey Jimmy V what about a big power 27 fountain? If you can keep your head from smashing through the windshield I hear they can give a huge pounding!Are those primal motors finished yet? Hey Sean sorry I missed you. Word NK :D

Ok, First off, 42 Tiger Straight Hull is a beast in rough water. You just have to power it right. You will WALK away from any stepped bottom boat in the rough stuff (5ft+).I have owned and ridden in the OL 37'. And personally (I’m just stating my opinion, not starting a war) it was nowhere near the ride of the Cigarette. Of course they're faster, (Outerlimits), but come on, they're faster in flat calm water. If you like the thrill of running in rough water, go for a cigarette. If you want to go fast on calm water........get an OL. I have heard stories about the 42' but I have yet to see this with my own eyes. PS- there’s a beautiful 42 Tiger one for sale at lip-ship performance. Also TNT has one at a good price as well I think that’s the one you’re looking at now.

Roller - that's pretty much what I figured. I rode in a Tiger once and it was a Beast!

Since I can't buy a boat from Lip-ship, I plan on going to TNT later this week. The good news is - I sold my 2000 Top Gun last Friday, so it's not only a boat show, but a shopping spree.... :D

Re: which boat would you choose and why (Cig -vs- Outerlimits)
 

WOW, this debate has been going round and round since the dawn of time... er-- at least since the dawn of (this version of) OSO. :D :D :evilb: :evilb:

Re: which boat would you choose and why (Cig -vs- Outerlimits)
 

Yes, and Kenny went with the Tiger...Which is for sale now.

Re: which boat would you choose and why (Cig -vs- Outerlimits)
 

Now that more time has gone by, Both extremely cool boats, but I still like the OL better. :cool:

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me too I RODE IN TEAM OBSESSION on the cape and jumped the wake of the ferry boat :p , it was like being in a caddy on a bumpy road NICE landing and keep going, speed not sure 90 plus ,I was taping it :eek: not holding on to anything. :D got to love OL man.

Re: which boat would you choose and why (Cig -vs- Outerlimits)
 

From what I hear the 42' Cig straight bottoms doesn't run as well with #6's. The has rocker and works better with Bravo's, which gives it bow lift. I don't think the #6 Cigs ever ran very fast. I also understand this is why they later designed the 42X.

As for the 37 OL, I've been in a few. Although they run great, I don't think they're the "best" rough water boats. They do run pretty fast for the power. Now a 42' OL compared to a 42Cig and I'd defintely go for the 42 OL! :drink:

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Kenny ended up with the Tiger he was talking about above. 900SC's "warmed" a bit, turning props in boat ran just under 100mph. Ran VERY nice.

The STEPPED Tigers had issues with the #6's not the straight hulls. That is why the X was made. Cig changed the bottom slightly to help the ride with big power and 6's.

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I guess I was mistaken. :chimp:

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I was gonna say...a #6 straight bottom Tiger not running fast? GL's #6 Tiger with 900+'s pushes 100...that's plenty fast for me.

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one ride in the ol you will be fumbling for your pen.

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Not trying to speak for Kenny (KWB). But he had the chance and the checkbook to purchase either. He went with the Tiger. Not knocking OL...I love 'em too. Just stating what he did.

Re: which boat would you choose and why (Cig -vs- Outerlimits)
 

Ok - you have awoken the dead..... : )

I started this thread almost 5 years ago.... wow time flys!

Looking back on my decision - I made the right choice for me and the water conditions here in the Pacific. The Tiger is a friggn' frieght train in rough water and in my opinion the straight bottom Tiger with #6 drives is one of the best Cigs they ever made.

If I were able to go back in time knowing what I know now and with all of the seat time I have had in the Tiger and in other boats, it was the right choice.