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Biggus 11-09-2005 08:01 AM

Konrad Marine's project 29' Fountain
 
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I thought I'd share some pictures of my latest project working with Konrad Marine.

Last spring, Konrad Marine had purchased a sweet 1987 29' ICBM Fountain to be used as an R&D boat. It's a really clean fresh water boat from Lake Winnipesaukee in New Hampshire. This little Fountain seemed to fit our needs pretty well, not too big, easy to drag to the ramp several times a day and since it was a TRS boat, swapping over to a pair of Konrad 540's would be a breeze.

The boat ran well at 62 mph but just did'nt have the horse power (stock 330's) to provide any real solid data. We needed more power.

After a few lengthly discussions, we decided on a pair of naturally aspirated 650hp 540 low decks backed up by BAM Cyborg 72C transmissions and our Konrad 540 drives complete with HP lowers. The stock cable steering system was removed and a full hydraulic system from WPM was installed as well.

We completed the project in less than two weeks and had a chance to run her in the St Criox river last Saturday. The results were pretty decent, After trying a couple sets of props, on a glass flat river we ran a best top speed of 85.8 @5500 with a pair of PowerTech 28 four blades.

Sure was a fun project and I know there's a few more mph in there somewhere. :D

Kurt
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Biggus 11-09-2005 08:09 AM

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Here's the stock 330's befor we yanked 'em :evilb:

Biggus 11-09-2005 08:12 AM

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Since we were upgrading from Borg Warner 71C trannies, we had to move the mounts forward almost 1" for the longer 72C's

Biggus 11-09-2005 08:17 AM

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The new 540's were dressed with fully polished CMI headers, MSD ignitions, Hardin Marine thermostatically controlled oil coolers, Holley 130 gph fuel pumps and Nickerson modified Holley 850 carbs.

Biggus 11-09-2005 08:21 AM

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They sure woke up this old girl :evilb: :D

outer42 11-09-2005 08:30 AM

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What are they rated to? Is there warranty?

BajaRunner 11-09-2005 08:31 AM

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Nice.

Biggus 11-09-2005 08:49 AM

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Originally Posted by outer42
What are they rated to? Is there warranty?


The Konrad drives are rated at a very conservative 740 ft lbs of torque.

Yes, we offer a one year warranty.

Thanks BajaRunner!!!

outer42 11-09-2005 09:02 AM

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and 700 hp? that's better than imco with no warranty. My buddy blew up his imco's up at 10 hours and no warranty,wish he got the konrads.

PatriYacht 11-09-2005 09:22 AM

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You need to do something that will stress the drives to the breaking point. Like a Black Thunder with 1000 hp a side and then go run some poker runs. I'll be glad to offer my boat as a test bed.... :D

tomcat 11-09-2005 09:24 AM

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Nice job Kurt; give me a call, I want to hear about the carb tuning.

Semper Fi 11-09-2005 09:55 AM

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Great project Kurt. I'm sure your drives will prove once again that they are a great product. On another note, that Fountain's speed numbers seem very low. I have a '97 33 PP with HP 500's that runs an honest 84mph. How could that Fountain have 300 more HP, be smaller and lighter and run prctically the same speed? Sounds like somthing isn't right to me.

GLH 11-09-2005 10:15 AM

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I had an 1988 like that but with the swim platform integrated, anything over 80 mph would get you attention REAL fast. Be careful

Lofty 11-09-2005 12:00 PM

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Nice Kurt!!! I've been talking to Fred and comparing numbers. We built the same boat with a bit more power and the performance is exceptional for an old dog!

We're getting 91 on the GPS. The boat handles pretty well at those speeds but it can get your attention real fast if you do anything abruptly.

What I like is going out on a rough day and belting the snot out of the Konrads without worrying about a failure. :evilb:

You guys keep up the good work. Tell Fred to hurry up with our last order so we can get that Pantera rapped up. :D

Waterfoul 11-09-2005 12:12 PM

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I agree... you need better R&D. You should put a Konrad on a single engine boat with good power and run the snot out of it in rough water. I humbly offer to you one Baja 24 Outlaw in need of power... that would make it easy. Just bolt your stuff on and I'll beat the crap out of it in all water conditions. That glass flat water isn't helping your R&D one bit!! Lake Michigan should be your proving grounds... which just happens to be one of my favorite places to run!!

Lofty 11-09-2005 12:18 PM

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Waterfoul,
We're doing a Pantera now with a 540, 650hp and going to a Konrad. We'll run the snot out of it here in CA on the Bay. Get's pretty filthy rough out here so it should be a good test of the drive.

bryanspeedracer 11-09-2005 12:26 PM

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Biggus you are a lucky devil to be able to play with boats all day!

Caincando1 11-09-2005 12:29 PM

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Cool, I can't wait to see them run with the big motors. Here is shot from our poker run with the stock motors.

scottc 11-09-2005 12:40 PM

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What do you think you could do with a Formula F402? It runs @55 mph with @475hp a side, stock TRS, 4 blade 22's.

pullmytrigger 11-09-2005 01:15 PM

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Hoppin' up old 29 Fountains....... :woohoo: :woohoo: :woohoo: :evilb:

SVL4 11-09-2005 04:22 PM

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Question,
Is there a difference in the power loss XR vs Konrad?Would the Konrad drive fit into the Bravo set up?How big is the skeg?

Thanks,
Wil

Lofty 11-09-2005 04:42 PM

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Konrad now has a kit to retrofit from a Bravo to a Konrad. The power loss is in the trany not the drive.

Fionn

MrCIG 11-09-2005 07:06 PM

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Kurt I was up at the factory on Monday and saw the Fountain looks like it would be alot of fun.

Everyone there was real friendly and helpful. Ken Konrad heard we were there so he came out and introduced himself. Very nice guy. Also met Mark Anderson and Fred Sparling.

They really make you feel like your part of the family they want to make sure your happy with there product.
And we are!!!

Mark

Biggus 11-10-2005 09:39 AM

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Thanks for the compliments!

Mr Cig, sorry I missed you. I was at the Konrad plant for the past month. Left for Maine on Sunday.

Kurt

wwwTOPDJcom 11-10-2005 09:49 AM

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Kurt when you doing a single 27-29ft with Big power? thats where those Bravo's fail big power single drive = blown bravo

Nice job on the Fountain its now a reliable poker run boat.

OldSchool 11-10-2005 02:27 PM

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Nice work Kurt!!!!

ScottB 11-10-2005 02:40 PM

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I'll give you more R&D than you can take.

ScottB 11-10-2005 02:45 PM

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If I can't kill em, nobody can


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