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Re: Free Ben Kramer for Thanksgiving
Rock, you beat me to it! That manatee was sick stuff.
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Re: Free Ben Kramer for Thanksgiving
augie tells these guys not just where you married C but who married you.
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Re: Free Ben Kramer for Thanksgiving
oooh oooh ...I know that one too !!!! :D
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Re: Free Ben Kramer for Thanksgiving
Originally Posted by rockstrmkr
Save The Outdrives
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Re: Free Ben Kramer for Thanksgiving
Originally Posted by Shane
Whether or not we as members of OSO and the offshore power boating community in general agree or disagree on anything related to or surrounding Ben Kramer, Don Aronow et. al, one thing is for certain. It is a human interest story of significant proportion. As enthusiasts of this addiction we call performance boating, we cannot hide the fact that the roots of the sport lie in an underground world of the 1970's and 1980's that has shaped much of today's America.
I for one have enjoyed immensely, reading the various works written on this subject and would enjoy reading yours Robingo. In no way shape or form is this to say or intend to put any of these people on a pedistal and hold them out to be model citizens. It is simply as I stated earlier, a human interest story that runs deeper for us (at least myself) due to our love of the sport. Barry |
Re: Free Ben Kramer for Thanksgiving
Hey Indio, that would have been Bob Saccenti who married C and me.It was on one of Juan Carlos' Titania 88.I remember he forgot the stamp, and we had to go back to shore and get it. I was close friends with Mark McManus back then. "Shnouzer" was there, and Tim.
About the "Save the Outdrives", everybody was talking about "save the manetees...the whales... the earth". It was a joke on that, but I got a little carried away, and graphic with the drawing of a chopped up manetee. |
Re: Free Ben Kramer for Thanksgiving
Augie, just got off the phone with Ben. He confirms what you have said. He sends you his Love!
Originally Posted by Robingo
This is Augie "The Dog" Zona. I've known Ben since we were teenagers, and I was there from the beginning of Apache. I was in a tomato field next to the MCC waiting for Charlie Stevens and Ben to land the helicopter. It did not go well, and I did 36 months in MCC myself, for my involvement. Robingo is a friend that is helping me write my recollections of that time in my life. I'm not promoting an agenda, or espousing any cause. I know the mention of Ben's name causes strong reactions (see post #102), but the simple truth is I was there.
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Re: Free Ben Kramer for Thanksgiving
It amazes me that Ben Kramer even gets this much attention. He was a 2bit hood who made money running drugs when it was easy. There are allot of people who got away with it back then. He idolized the Don and wanted to be like him. The problem was Don was a self made millionaire who was smart and took calculated risks. He was a promoter and showman. Sort of like Donald Trump on smaller scale. Ben was a schmuck who ran reefer and tried to buy his way into the "show" well it takes more than cash to be successful and Ben hated that he could never be Don. He killed him out of jealousy the money if there was a side deal was nothing he was just a little coward who hired a hit-man and wanted t get rid of the competition. Tell me what were the names of the Boat companies Ben started up again? And how big was his trophy case.
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Re: Free Ben Kramer for Thanksgiving
Lol!
Merry Christmas! |
Re: Free Ben Kramer for Thanksgiving
Donald "Trumb"? You're fried.
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