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vettvet 12-02-2005 05:21 PM

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Can anyone give me some info about the Tourque V12 motors that were around for a while? They seemed to be the hot set-up, then they vanished.

sean stinson 12-02-2005 05:22 PM

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Call Sterling Performance in MI Mike D has the whole program

LostinBoston 12-02-2005 10:16 PM

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Originally Posted by License To Thrill
Dave Callan is also involved. He puts them in his new C50 raceboat for the SBI races because Carbonell won't let him run the turbines even in P1X. :mad:

so "unlimited" doesnt really mean unlimted? That sucks. Callan has his hand in there somehow and the engines are pretty awesome, but underpowered for a superboat unlimited. They sound better then V8's too. THey are Naturally aspirated, but If somone put the time and money into getting a blower on them they might kick some major A$$. They have some more cool stuff in the works though.
-Rick

Chris Sunkin 12-03-2005 07:04 AM

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Ryan Falconer builds a 600 inch v-12 that in twin-supercharged configuration makes 1600 hp. The motor was originally designed for the P-51 Mustang replica planes and is FAA certified in that configuration. Ryan has been around for 30 years and has built engines for just about every major racing circuit. Unlike Torque, he's not dependent on one market for his business to survive.

http://www.falconerengines.com/

PatriYacht 12-03-2005 07:57 AM

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Interesting website, thanks for posting it. Is Falconer's v-12 based on the small block Chevy? The Torque v-12 is based on a 4.5 bore, 4.5 stroke big block so it has the advantage of more cubic inches. With supercharging 2000 hp should be possible.

WARPARTY36 12-03-2005 08:11 AM

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A couple of pic's from KW this year.

PatriYacht 12-03-2005 10:00 AM

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I'm glad that tubines have not been allowed in offshore racing. The lack of thunder in Thunderboat racing has cost part of it's appeal imho. Standing on the breakwall in Key West, the Callen boat would make the hair stand up on the back of your neck. And the Bud boat was just plain LOUD! Also, think of all the technology that's filtering down to us little guys from racing. Big cube engines and superchargers for instance.

KiloKat 12-03-2005 05:43 PM

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It is my understanding that Sterling is no longer involved in the Torque program. If interested in these you should contact Dave Callan directly.

dockrocker 12-03-2005 08:36 PM

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I always thought the Torques were a great idea - after all, there's no replacement for displacement, and 860 cubes are almost two 454's in *one* package!

Chris Sunkin 12-04-2005 10:29 AM

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Originally Posted by PatriYacht
Interesting website, thanks for posting it. Is Falconer's v-12 based on the small block Chevy? The Torque v-12 is based on a 4.5 bore, 4.5 stroke big block so it has the advantage of more cubic inches. With supercharging 2000 hp should be possible.


No, not the Chev. Similar architecture to the normally aspirated cosworth v-8 but on a larger scale.

PatriYacht 12-04-2005 10:40 AM

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So they started with a clean sheet of paper so to speak. That's big $$$.

2112 12-04-2005 01:07 PM

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The Marine exhaust on the Falconer is butt ugly, with that much $ spent you would think they could fab some gorgeous headers rather than the "ready to rot out" aluminum things.

2112 12-04-2005 01:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Chris Sunkin
No, not the Chev. Similar architecture to the normally aspirated cosworth v-8 but on a larger scale.

So are they overhead cam or push rod motors

Chris Sunkin 12-04-2005 07:23 PM

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Originally Posted by 2112
The Marine exhaust on the Falconer is butt ugly, with that much $ spent you would think they could fab some gorgeous headers rather than the "ready to rot out" aluminum things.

Ryan likely cares little about flash. I can tell you this- if he built them, they're impervious.

Chris Sunkin 12-04-2005 07:26 PM

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Originally Posted by 2112
So are they overhead cam or push rod motors

Pushrod

Rik 12-04-2005 10:31 PM

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I believe the Falconers are based upon a small block Chevy with an additional four cylinders added to them.

He made a package for a 3/4 ton suburban/truck (no smog control back then on them) back in the early 90's.

His 720 looks good, wonder about pricing.

tomcat 12-05-2005 03:32 PM

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The Torque V-12 1500 was in the Vortech booth at SEMA in 2003. It had two V-7 compressors and two intercoolers but the program did not seem to progress beyond that. I have looked at adapting our twin blower system to this engine since we use the V-7 compressor albeit with the new YSi impellers and counter rotating blowers. I've run the numbers using EAP and 2000 HP is quite feasible. The main advantage of these engines is the 12 intake ports. To make the same power on a V-8 is much harder.

This is the twin blower engine in the Vortech booth at PRI this year.


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