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frogger1403 12-06-2005 12:41 PM

Staggered vs sbs
 
I am wondering how much staggering the engines gives you in top speed versus sbs installation.

I am looking at a 38 with Ilmors and Arnesons.

any ideas?

heiko

Edward R. Cozzi 12-06-2005 12:52 PM

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Mark McManus once told me that staggered engines made the boat faster in rough water. The outdrives running deeper meant the props stayed in the water longer and went back in sooner. Always made good sense to me, so I never questioned it.

thedonz 12-06-2005 01:18 PM

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handleing at airborn more stablity

j mike

BBB725 12-06-2005 01:56 PM

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Lowers and moves forward the center of gravity and puts the drives deeper in the water and is faster.

cuda 12-06-2005 02:36 PM

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I always thought raising the drives makes them faster. :confused:

Gary Anderson 12-06-2005 03:19 PM

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The drives are lower, going down the V, relative to the center of gravity. This allows a higher X dimension, relative to the bottom of the boat. So you can run 1-2" higher X diimension, still have good trim control, go faster, and have a bigger sun deck for your "crew". What's not to like?


Originally Posted by cuda
I always thought raising the drives makes them faster. :confused:


Downtown42 12-06-2005 04:23 PM

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and they look cool staggered :evilb: what else matters :cool:

cuda 12-06-2005 04:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Gary Anderson
The drives are lower, going down the V, relative to the center of gravity. This allows a higher X dimension, relative to the bottom of the boat. So you can run 1-2" higher X diimension, still have good trim control, go faster, and have a bigger sun deck for your "crew". What's not to like?

I'm not doubting you, but I still don't understand. If you can run the same X without lowering the engine, why would it be faster?

RLW 12-06-2005 04:37 PM

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Performance aside, I like it from a maintenance standpoint.
Of course, if I had that much whip, someone else would be wrenching.

customryder 12-06-2005 04:48 PM

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better balance, more speed. room to work, looks cool.

Rik 12-06-2005 04:48 PM

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Originally Posted by cuda
I'm not doubting you, but I still don't understand. If you can run the same X without lowering the engine, why would it be faster?

The engines do sit lower in relation to the top of the boat not in relation to their reference to the bottom. As you move the engines towards the center the dead rise being anything other than ZERO means they will have to go downward as they go inward.

All this adds up to is that the vertical center of gravity is lower than a side by side but the lateral center of gravity is further forward than a side by side. Better turning, more level ride in the rough.

This is better for rough water conditions but may not be any faster in smooth water if the boat does not like a farther forward CG. Sometimes the difference in top speed is only 1-2 mph but the rough is way faster as the boat feels more stable. Confidence equals speed in a lot of cases.

Docking is more difficult with a stagger but working on the engines is far easier.

Downtown42 12-06-2005 05:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Rik

Docking is more difficult with a stagger but working on the engines is far easier.

I've heard this alot. Just leave one drive in neutral and dock like a single engine rig using steering wheel ILO both shifters.
Works good.

customryder 12-06-2005 05:06 PM

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no trouble docking at all.

RICKY PEREZ 12-06-2005 05:22 PM

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Unless The Props Turn In . Then It's A Whole Different World !!!

CAP071 12-06-2005 05:26 PM

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Cool Info I was just tallking about this topic with a buddy last week.

Bottom line is.... Is it worth it? Do you pay much more $$ for staggered vs sbs?

Semper Fi 12-06-2005 05:31 PM

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My 33' Race Powerplay is a full stagger, with props turning in and it's a piece of cake to dock. It surprised me the first time I tried to dock it. I'm not the best driver either. :D

pm203 12-06-2005 08:16 PM

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exactly

audacity 12-06-2005 08:37 PM

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if you have a cabin in the boat it may go slower!

the bottom line is have the manufacture back up what they say it will do...if they tell you 95, then hold them to it....no BS! NO ideal conditions w/6K props it would....

Comanche3Six 12-06-2005 08:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Downtown42
and they look cool staggered :evilb: what else matters :cool:

true


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