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MILD THUNDER 12-14-2005 10:46 PM

80's wave crushers
 
lets compare some of these boats

Chris Craft Stingers. 390X, 375, 415

Excalibur Hawk 40

Wellcraft Excalibur Eagle 42

Wellcraft Scarab 400

Wellcraft Scarab 38KV

Sonic 41

Fountain 12 Meter

Im gonna leave out Apache and Cigs just because they cost too much $$$. Rate them based on performance, rough water capabilty, amenities, quality, and looks

MILD THUNDER 12-14-2005 10:51 PM

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Forgot another one I like, The Formula 402 SR-1 :p

MILD THUNDER 12-14-2005 10:57 PM

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I actually have a 40ft Hawk, love the boat, but a little more headroom would be nice.

scottc 12-14-2005 11:31 PM

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Originally Posted by MILD THUNDER
Forgot another one I like, The Formula 402 SR-1 :p

I vote for that one :drink: I love mine :evilb:

MILD THUNDER 12-14-2005 11:50 PM

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Originally Posted by scottc
I vote for that one :drink: I love mine :evilb:


What year is yours? I looked at one for sale here last year, kind of wish I bought it. Cool boats

scottc 12-15-2005 12:04 AM

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It's an all white 1984. Not fast but rides like a dream. 454/475hp but won't sware to it. Runs 47@4000 rpms, tops out at @ 58mph with the 4 blades a little faster with the 3 blades on the top.

boatme 12-15-2005 05:28 AM

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I loved my 38 KV

I wish i would have kept it

This pic was taken of us running in the Pier 33 poker run Many Many Years ago

TxHawk 12-15-2005 08:20 AM

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Undecided:evilb:

dockrocker 12-15-2005 08:32 AM

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Originally Posted by scottc
It's an all white 1984. Not fast but rides like a dream. 454/475hp but won't sware to it. Runs 47@4000 rpms, tops out at @ 58mph with the 4 blades a little faster with the 3 blades on the top.

Is that GregP's old boat? If so, I looked and lusted after that tank for a long time, but just couldn't get the timing right.... :(

Stormrider 12-15-2005 09:27 AM

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Hawk 40
38KV
12M fountain

like that order... but not absolutely.
could change w/ a particular boat.
but all of these could be nice w/ 700-750hp and konrads.

GLH 12-15-2005 09:35 AM

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Scarab 38 KV---- Sweet Lines

CBR 12-15-2005 09:39 AM

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There is a Stinger 415 on Long Island that is mint mint. Great looking boat.

TxHawk 12-15-2005 10:14 AM

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Mine runs 75mph with very mild 650HP's and IMCO drives. I wrote the boat off years ago as being slow and thought that it would never respond to updated power and drives. I was wrong. The boat has had some weight taken out of it and with mild power is a lot of fun to drive in rough water.

Stormrider 12-15-2005 10:24 AM

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I know you said cigs are much more $$, but this is a nice one and seems a good deal.
http://www.offshoreonly.com/esvon/page-7502.html

jhiguy377 12-15-2005 01:02 PM

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course i'd be partial to the line of the s type scarabs; not much of a fan of the flat deck boats. its gotta be said though that the rigging of the wellcrafts and chris crafts and formulas generrally needs to be brought up to a better standard along with hull deck attachment. that's what make for great projects though.
jeff

RollWithIt 12-15-2005 01:14 PM

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What speeds could you expect out of an old 38 Flat Deck Cig with the 454's? Thats alot of boat for the price.

SKRAMER 12-15-2005 01:45 PM

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Originally Posted by RollWithIt
What speeds could you expect out of an old 38 Flat Deck Cig with the 454's? Thats alot of boat for the price.

You might see 60mph. But it would get my vote for WAVE CRUSHER.

scottc 12-15-2005 01:50 PM

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Originally Posted by dockrocker
Is that GregP's old boat? If so, I looked and lusted after that tank for a long time, but just couldn't get the timing right.... :(

Yup That's it. He did a nice job putting it together. But as all boat owners.................I tweak it some more. I'll still take an offer if you wish....................

RollWithIt 12-15-2005 01:51 PM

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Figured youd have to run some BIG power to move that thing. I'd guess the weight to be around 10K. Definately a wave crusher.

Fine509 12-15-2005 01:52 PM

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Ex Harwk 40 were you and your son down at LOTO , If so I think I talked to him at shooters. Beutiful old boat, I'm partial to the ols shcool look myself, with a 79 Scarab 300 , also a tank.

TxHawk 12-15-2005 01:53 PM

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Fine509, i am the one you talked to. Your boat looked and ran well too. Matt

Stormrider 12-15-2005 02:54 PM

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Originally Posted by RollWithIt
Figured youd have to run some BIG power to move that thing. I'd guess the weight to be around 10K. Definately a wave crusher.

All these boats will need big power to get 'em up to 80.
But like i said a pair of 750na w/ konrads would be the way to go. Probably top out around 75ish, but cruise all day at 55-60 in anything you want.

thisistank 12-15-2005 05:05 PM

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Originally Posted by ExcaliburHawk40
Mine runs 75mph with very mild 650HP's and IMCO drives. I wrote the boat off years ago as being slow and thought that it would never respond to updated power and drives. I was wrong. The boat has had some weight taken out of it and with mild power is a lot of fun to drive in rough water.


Gawd, that thing is good looking!! Looks like a big 38KV...Both awesome boats!

johnnyboatman 12-15-2005 06:55 PM

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exhawk, ive seen your boat in person i think it is perfect. couldnt ask for a better looking boat.

Too Old 12-15-2005 07:03 PM

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ExcaliburHawk40........nice job on your boat. Beautiful, clean, classic lines.

dockrocker 12-15-2005 07:49 PM

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Originally Posted by scottc
Yup That's it. He did a nice job putting it together. But as all boat owners.................I tweak it some more. I'll still take an offer if you wish....................

Tempting.... only problem is, I'd have to sell mine first, and I can pretty much guarantee the market for boats and toys in general will be in the ****ter in Michigan for the next year or three.

scottc 12-15-2005 08:13 PM

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Just remember.............everything is for sale always. :drink: I also have a 1990 Silverton 34 Express. Very slow but also a wave crusher. And it has all the comfort of home. :D

TxHawk 12-15-2005 11:36 PM

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Thanks for the kind words, I am very proud of the boat.

Trick, there are quite a few of your parts in the boat.

open87 12-16-2005 07:46 AM

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EH40 , i have looked through your photo album several times , really great job on her ........

Fine509 12-20-2005 11:39 AM

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Exhaewk 40 , thanks. yeah I was surprized myself, we thought that it slowed down . They clocked me at 89.9, makes me wish I had run race gas and took the cover and tools out of it. Hopefully we make it this year but only if I pick up at least 5mph, we are doing some major surgery. the hull was very broken when we made that run.

cigarette38topgun 01-02-2006 04:23 PM

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38' kv is my choice. The boat is bad azz and still has great style/lines today agianst the new boats. I might own one after i make my scale baywatch scarab with Pamela Anderson riding on it with me~

375stinger 01-02-2006 04:46 PM

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our 375 was great in the rough. wide 9 ft beam too. heavy boat. but some of the interior contruction and hardware wasnt up to a beating like the hull. i must say tho that there is a big difference in the ride of the 375 that weighed around 12 and the 42 cig that weighs around 16. my guess is a formula would be the best all around rough water crusher on ur list.

thedonz 01-02-2006 07:30 PM

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even though it's not on the list i have to say CIGARETTE and a 38 scarb

jr mike

Ms PatriYacht 01-02-2006 08:29 PM

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I need to hunt around for a picture of our 86 40' Scarab with a raised deck, great party cockpit. For those of you on Lake St Clair it was around the area forever, it was named Vise Versa. We sold it to someone in Chicago right before we got active on OSO and the boat seemed to disappear


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