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I made an offer! On a Kachina.. I didn't get it (they want to0 much) Getting ready to make an offer on a sunsation later today :D Can anyone help me with values ? Is the Nada boat value accurate, high or low? Seems to me everyone wants way more then the boats are worth? I am trying to buy one for 10% less low retail (nada) in perfect shape. Am i being unrealstic? (looking at 2003 thru 2005 boats) TX for any post!

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If your trying to buy from a dealer they sell high and take your trade at low book ,look at OSO classifides they have some good deals here.

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Sunsation Dominators are pretty nice boats. Screw buying via a dealer!! You are just paying his comission on top of what you should be paying the seller. Be vigilant!!!!

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I believe NADA low retail for a PERFECT boat is a fair/good deal. I bought and sold a number of express cruisers and low retail was my selling price. Obviously I bought them cheaper but they were in less than perfect condition. I usually spent 100+ hours getting them up to "low retail" prices.

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Throw out a price you want to pay and walk away.

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Yes... You might be unrealistic in your criteria. However, if you are willing to conduct a long and time-consuming search, then you just might find the "perfect boat" at a great price.

I am also searching for the "perfect boat", but I am willing to pay "average NADA retail" for it. :cool:

Good luck! :D

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a friend of mine was looking for a boat he went around offering everyone half of what they were asking i think the fifteen seller accepted. i too made an offer on a boat yesterday, if he does accept it i have another i will be making an offer on tonight. hold at til you get what you want for what you want to pay cash in hand makes it a buyers market. good luck

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It's a BUYERS market....pay YOUR price or walk away. There will be plenty of boats out there for sale

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I'd say buy a powerplay with three man race bolsters! I think you can find one somewhere around here. :evilb:

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LMAO

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That was an honest attempt to push Gerards boat. I couldn't believe he didn't so I stepped in. :D

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Are you talkin' new or used?

If new depending on the dealership size/floor plan, 18% and above off MSRP would be a good deal outside of unusual circumstances.

Used. I would go to all the available websites offering boats for sale and come up with my own NADA price range based on what everyone else is selling for especially in your region.

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So true

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I think low retail is good place to buy for perfect boat too but seems everyone is asking 10% more then average retail..this is huge amount of money 30k in most cases. So gonna take some searching. PS Made my 2nd offer waiting for reply :evilb:

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I just don't understand these ads. "Must Sell Fast" "Make Offer", you offer 10k less on a 200k boat and they say no.... :rolleyes:

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Same line as other thread:

Bob you need to read the value explanations on the bottom of the nada page. Anything mint will get a premium! You can buy junk for average value and salvage deals will be low retail.

Value Explanations
Low Retail Value — A low retail valued boat will show excessive wear and tear either cosmetically and/or mechanically. This boat will require cosmetic or mechanical work and may or may not be in running order. The buyer can expect to invest in cosmetic and/or mechanical work. Low retail vessels usually are not found on a dealer's lot.

Average Retail Value — An average retail valued boat should be in good condition with no visible damage or defects. This boat will show moderate wear and tear and will be in sound running condition. The buyer may need to invest in either minor cosmetic or mechanical work.

Note: Vessels in exceptional condition can be worth a significantly higher value than the Average Retail Price shown.

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Now I know why...

I talked with my finance officer, and they will only loan 90% of NADA "low retail". :(

The search continues... :cool:

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They will only lend that cuase thats all its worth.. :D

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I would find a new bank/financing!!!

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Its a BUYERS market,don't get too upset if someone doesn't take your offer. As many boats are for sale out there I wouldn't give ANYONE close to nada retail. I watch the detroit freepress,powerboat mag classifieds and the classifieds on here and I see the same boats for sale for months even years. Alot of people are so upside down on their boats they have to throw some money in just to sell it and they just won't do it. A good friend had a baja 29 outlaw,was a real clean boat he bought new. He traded his old boat in on it with 600 hours for 6k LESS than what he owed on it. He paid the dealer top dollar for the new 29 plus rolled the negative balance from old boat into his loan. He was stroking like 950$ a month on a 20 year loan. He lost his license for 7 years and had a couple of kids,couldn't even use the boat legally or afford to put gas in it but he still had to make the pmt and keep insurance on it. Had it for sale for 3 years,he finally came to terms with the fact he had to borrow 15k to pay on loan to sell boat(he owed 70,000 but only got 55,000) for what someone would actually pay. He paid almost 35,000 in pmts and 12,000 in insurance while it was for sale. Funny thing was when he first tried selling it for 85,000 he could have easily got 70,000 for it but he was holding out for "the right person" who'd give him what he was asking! So he pizzed away almost 47,000 in pmts and insurance then STILL had to borrow 15 k to sell it,I laughed at him when he finally sold it,should have sold it "right" 3 years ago and been done with it!!!I'm sure ALOT of these other sellers are in same position,Smitty

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A boat is worth what you are willing to pay.

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So what's cookin with your offers?

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so true!

just ran mine on nada. im almost 17k under "low" retail and i still have it. :rolleyes: i was hoping i could sell it cheap now and find something else before spring. ill keep it rather then drop the the bargain price i have on it now. im sure lack of resonable insurance isnt helping potential buyers either :(

http://www.offshoreonly.com/esvon/page-8367.html


Low Retail Average Retail
Base Price

$66,250 $79,800
Reported Engine Range: 301 - 350 HP (5.7L - 8.1L )
Total adjustment for your engine(s) - Add: $2,960
Options

Power Boat: CANVAS
Cockpit Cover: $290 $345
Power Boat: ENTERTAINMENT
Stereo - am/fm CD player w/4 speakers: $285 $340
Power Boat: MISCELLANEOUS OPTIONAL EQUIPMENT
Batteries - Dual w/Switch: $140 $170
Cavitation Plates / Adjustable: $535 $635
External Steering - Twin Hydraulic: $2,000 $2,380
Fire Ext. 100 - 200 cu. ft.: $200 $240
Fuel Injection: $590 $705
Outbd. Hydraulic Steering: $455 $540
Outbd. Power Tilt/Trim (101-300 HP): $370 $440
Propeller / Stainless Steel (3-Blade): $265 $315
Transom Bracket Twin Engine: $1,190 $1,415
Trim Indicator: $110 $130

TOTAL PRICE $75,640 $90,415

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The NADA book should be kept in the bathroom, you can rip out pages to wipe your azz with, thats all it's good for.

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Beach, is it this boat you are making an offer on?

http://www.offshoreonly.com/esvon/page-8416.html

If it is, the boat is a smokin deal. It's less than 8 months old, had 20 hours on it and the guy has put and easy 15k extra in upgrades in it. They cost 110 plus tax title and lic. with the 525.
He added new guages, billet controls, full hydraulic helm and steering, emi boxes with optimas, billet seat bases, billet trim tank, two hatch rams, it has a full cover, xr drive, 2 huge Fosgate power amps, Diamond Audio hex series seperates, Alpine type x subs, and Alpine deck and its installed and done correctly. The boat itself is immaculate and you wont find any flaws anywhere in it. I know the guy personally and he's the most anal SOB you've ever met.

The boat show is in the beginning of Feb., he's got the front page of the boat trader that week and he paid to be on the flyer they hand out at their booth. The manufacturer will be there selling his new boats without all the upgrades for 110k (plus tax title and lic.) that weekend so he's pretty confindent he'll get some serious offers. I wouldn't expect him to budge too much unless he doesn't get any action at the show.

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Actually I was looking at the one loui has with the skulls in showroom.(IT IS BAD ASS seats all have skulls too) But he doesnt want to come down to what i want to pay. Plus with a 525 it will only go mid 75 seems a little slow..Sunsation dominator should break 80 with twin ho's .. i like the open bow if i can get it. Need to find one a couple years old though to be where i want to price wise...

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They're big boats for single motor application. His 34 is way cool but not priced anywhere close to what you're talking about. Louie is a tough salesman, he will deal with cash offers though, and I mean seriously deal. ;)

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Ya the Red one he has Looks sswweeeettttt.. :D Just not sure I want to go that high but its a hell of a boat for the money. Best new boat I,ve seen for the money. considering it... :rolleyes: (the new sunsation ss open is bad ass too)<<even more CASH

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I'd like to see what all the people talking about under low book will be asking for THIER boats when they go up for sale? Saw it ALL day long when I was in that end of the business and it still makes me laugh.

Soo very true.

Just remember that boat you buy 10 under book should be worth only 20 under book when you go to sell it. But I bet that's not what you'll be asking for it in a few years.

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Sold my last 2 boats for just BELOW low retail and i sold them both within 30 days. (not performance boats either..performance I would think are even tuffer to sell) I bought them right so when i wanted out didn't have a problem..

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now he was just plain dumb to get in that far over his head
you said he didn't even have the fuel $ now that's a red flag
negitive equity is just a problem waiting to bite you.

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What hurt my buddy fred to the point he couldn't even afford gas(besides HIMSELF) was his insurance going from 900$ a year to 4000$ because of his dui and the ten g's he haden't planned on spending fighting the dui :evilb: ,Smitty