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JUKED YOU 03-05-2006 10:59 PM

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Originally Posted by TRICK
Surely you guys that are so caustic and defensive in your remarks can understand how there might be a tad bit of confusion????

After all, there are ads all over for KEPP with Keith's picture on them. What are people suppose to think? Not everyone has the good fortune of having a personal relationship with Mr Eickert and knowing the inside scoop.

There's absolutly no doubt Keith Eickert is a great engine builder. There is however a great deal of confusion amongst consumers about where Mr Eickert works. Under the circumstances, I think it's understandable and not particularly worthy of a tongue lashing.


thats exactly what i was thinking, i mean really how is everyone supose to know who is who and who is building what over there these days (not a bash, i know they build quality products but i just agree its a bit confusing)

Dregsz 03-06-2006 02:21 AM

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birdog 03-06-2006 06:38 AM

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Originally Posted by TRICK
Surely you guys that are so caustic and defensive in your remarks can understand how there might be a tad bit of confusion????

After all, there are ads all over for KEPP with Keith's picture on them. What are people suppose to think? Not everyone has the good fortune of having a personal relationship with Mr Eickert and knowing the inside scoop.

There's absolutly no doubt Keith Eickert is a great engine builder. There is however a great deal of confusion amongst consumers about where Mr Eickert works. Under the circumstances, I think it's understandable and not particularly worthy of a tongue lashing.

You beat me to it.....Have heard nothing but great things about KE..The person, but I'm not sure who is who right now?

After all the help Dean Gellner has given me {Free} He is my choice

Harper220 03-06-2006 06:38 AM

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Originally Posted by TRICK
Surely you guys that are so caustic and defensive in your remarks can understand how there might be a tad bit of confusion????

After all, there are ads all over for KEPP with Keith's picture on them. What are people suppose to think? Not everyone has the good fortune of having a personal relationship with Mr Eickert and knowing the inside scoop.

There's absolutly no doubt Keith Eickert is a great engine builder. There is however a great deal of confusion amongst consumers about where Mr Eickert works. Under the circumstances, I think it's understandable and not particularly worthy of a tongue lashing.

There's obviously been plenty of confusion when KE uses his name for branding purposes. I think to most people who don't know any of the real story, that Keith Eickert is still involved with everything that has his name on it. So yes, I agree with Trick.

From what I've heard excellent engines, but maybe just a bad marketing strategy?? :rolleyes:

Anyway, I've heard good things about Teague and Pfaff... :D

SCARABJ 03-06-2006 08:20 AM

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Originally Posted by TRICK
Surely you guys that are so caustic and defensive in your remarks can understand how there might be a tad bit of confusion????

After all, there are ads all over for KEPP with Keith's picture on them. What are people suppose to think? Not everyone has the good fortune of having a personal relationship with Mr Eickert and knowing the inside scoop.

There's absolutly no doubt Keith Eickert is a great engine builder. There is however a great deal of confusion amongst consumers about where Mr Eickert works. Under the circumstances, I think it's understandable and not particularly worthy of a tongue lashing.

I agree with the statment that their is some confusion, that is fine and understanable.. but my problem is that people make statments as a FACT, when its not even close, and I do get defensive with statments about Kieth as he has been railroaded and ran over many times in the past few years. as i also would defend you if someone was making statements that i knew were far from the truth!
This is a major problem on OSO false statements being made with no repercussions. I do not post about anything that I'm not SURE about... If every one did that we would have less problems here...James

Buddy OO 03-06-2006 09:36 AM

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Richie Zul, a classic, JC, Leon Dereberry,3600cat, all are up there., they build with good parts , experience, and a warranty. I also think Raylar and twin turbo yellow cat are up and comers. but you get what you pay for period, and yes all motors can break no matter who builds them.

ONESICKGLADIATOR 03-06-2006 09:45 AM

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There's absolutely no doubt Keith Eickert is one of the two great engine builder out there & Richie Zul is the other.
End of story These Guys have done it all then its comes to building big hp engines that stay together. You see the other company out that build engines for a lot less and you get what you pay for junk.

This is just my $0.02


Rick OSG

BLee 03-06-2006 10:15 AM

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I'm goin with Zul and Chief.

TomFTM 03-06-2006 10:24 AM

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Originally Posted by nose candy
i have been in the offshore world for many years and never heard of this dude.how many championships has he won and with what?In my opinion Zul has won more offshore engine builder of the year awards than most and there is no denying his stuff dont break


If you don't know who Carson is, than you never seen any big hp turbo motors. He is the man when it comes to marine turbo's , he owns the right to all the Gentry Turbo stuff. Where do you think all the big name engine builders get there turbo stuff from.

Maximus 03-06-2006 11:24 AM

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LEOPAJM 03-06-2006 12:17 PM

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Originally Posted by fast fun 2
Saris Racing Engines at Performance Marine Lake George New York. It would be me and my father.


FF2 .... nice stuff !

Is the LAW on lake George as tuff on the performance boats as I've heard (noise, speed ect...) or is it a little exagerrated ????

KiloKat 03-06-2006 12:28 PM

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I prefer Sterling Performance engines. Fountain, OL and myself used them for the kilo runs where reliability is as important as big horsepower. Mike's engines seem to have both.

HUSTLEthis 03-06-2006 02:40 PM

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Over here on the left coast...Paul Pfaff

TeamSaris 03-06-2006 02:55 PM

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Originally Posted by LEOPAJM
FF2 .... nice stuff !

Is the LAW on lake George as tuff on the performance boats as I've heard (noise, speed ect...) or is it a little exagerrated ????

They will be total asses if you are a total ass. Like if you blow by 100 yards away at 100+ they will stop you. And if they stop you a lot of times they will noise test you. :(

Havasu Cig 03-06-2006 04:43 PM

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I have not read the whole thread, but I have to throw Bob Teague's name out there. I know more than a few people that have had his motors and had excellent results with them. I know of a couple of 1000's he built that have held together VERY well, and they have been hammered on.

WeaponX 03-06-2006 04:46 PM

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Originally Posted by wiggler4490
Richie Zul, a classic, JC, Leon Dereberry,3600cat, all are up there., they build with good parts , experience, and a warranty. I also think Raylar and twin turbo yellow cat are up and comers. but you get what you pay for period, and yes all motors can break no matter who builds them.

Add KE and Chief to that list. I know 3600CAT builds awsome motors. :D :evilb:

28SCARAB 03-06-2006 07:25 PM

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I voted other there are some good engine builders on the list but I'm going with RICHIE ZUL going on my third season and not a single problem. :D

INDY27 03-07-2006 08:14 PM

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Sterling...nuff said :drink:

OkieTunnel 03-07-2006 10:55 PM

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You guys are killing me! If someone plunks down 700k on a boat it has...STERLINGS, always.

zt260 03-08-2006 10:16 AM

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Originally Posted by OkieTunnel
You guys are killing me! If someone plunks down 700k on a boat it has...STERLINGS, always.

Most of the time that's correct, but Fountain had a lightning at the NYC boat show with Merc 1075's costing over 700K

johnnyboatman 03-08-2006 11:53 AM

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how about BOYDS in norman okla.

cstraub 03-08-2006 12:04 PM

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Originally Posted by zt260
Now if KE was still actually building....


He, meaning Keith, just ordered a bunch of stuff from us. . .

two-air 03-08-2006 12:12 PM

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What about Inovation in Sarasota?? :eek: :eek:

Anarchy Powerboats 03-08-2006 03:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Havasu Cig
I have not read the whole thread, but I have to throw Bob Teague's name out there. I know more than a few people that have had his motors and had excellent results with them. I know of a couple of 1000's he built that have held together VERY well, and they have been hammered on.

Bob and Larry Peto both deserve mention here for sure.

rainorshine 03-08-2006 04:52 PM

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Tyler Crockett ? :rolleyes:

TomFTM 03-08-2006 04:53 PM

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Originally Posted by nose candy
So he bought someone elses technology and sells parts.how many offshore engine builder of the year awards does he have?who are these big name turbo builders?sterling, zul, ke,pfaff have another donut.where are my plates?

Ask some of the builders you mentioned above , they will tell you who he is and what he knows . As far as offshore builder of the year awards , I could not tell you . I know he builds alot of motors for the offshore ski race guys on the left coast. Call him up, the guy is very knowledgable.

PS I dont do donuts .

I believe your plates are on a Volkswagon down in El Salvador........ :eek:

Strip Poker 388 03-08-2006 06:38 PM

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Originally Posted by TRICK
Surely you guys that are so caustic and defensive in your remarks can understand how there might be a tad bit of confusion????

After all, there are ads all over for KEPP with Keith's picture on them. What are people suppose to think? Not everyone has the good fortune of having a personal relationship with Mr Eickert and knowing the inside scoop.

There's absolutly no doubt Keith Eickert is a great engine builder. There is however a great deal of confusion amongst consumers about where Mr Eickert works. Under the circumstances, I think it's understandable and not particularly worthy of a tongue lashing.

I agree :(

racesdad 03-08-2006 06:56 PM

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Innovation Marine Does Some Trck Stuff Too

mrhorsepower1 03-08-2006 07:05 PM

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How much would you like?!?! .......... :D :D :D
I agree that there are a small handfull of very talented engine builders in this industry. Sterling Performance, Phaff, Teague, and Keith Eickert which I have been fortunate to become great friends with are in the tops not to mention a few other up and coming names! Keep up the great work guys!! I think we need a engine build off. Dyno and then 200 miles in open water shoot out! :D
Best Regards,
Dean Gellner
Gellner Engineering Marine Power

epeek 03-08-2006 08:33 PM

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Originally Posted by mrhorsepower1
How much would you like?!?! .......... :D :D :D
I agree that there are a small handfull of very talented engine builders in this industry. Sterling Performance, Phaff, Teague, and Keith Eickert which I have been fortunate to become great friends with are in the tops not to mention a few other up and coming names! Keep up the great work guys!! I think we need a engine build off. Dyno and then 200 miles in open water shoot out! :D
Best Regards,
Dean Gellner
Gellner Engineering Marine Power

Now thats something I'd like to see!!!

44MTI 03-08-2006 08:35 PM

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I'll volunteer the boat to try them in.

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