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The Bay Air 12V A/C System
The Bay Air 12V A/C System
I know this has been discussed before, but I just want to be sure that I am making the right decision before I spend $1500! :eek: It gets hot on the lake in Texas, and I would like to have some kind of cooling system for the cabin. My Bullet has a large "cooler" next to the sink in the cabin, but I doubt that I will use it to store drinks. It can be used as the "cooler" for the A/C system. Has anyone ever used one of these? How well did it work? Thanks! :cool: http://www.bayairac.com/images/UnitFrontViewLarge.jpg |
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It's basically a swamp cooler. They do work rather well, as long as you keep up with the ice. The built-in cooler in your bullet is about the same size as mine, and that should hold enough ice to keep cool during a day of boating.
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Originally Posted by CigDaze
It's basically a swamp cooler. They do work rather well, as long as you keep up with the ice. The built-in cooler in your bullet is about the same size as mine, and that should hold enough ice to keep cool during a day of boating.
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Interesting but I think the cooling potential is limited.Curious what the price is.Mermaid makes a 12 volt air conditioner that is a 110 unit running off an inverter,seems to be a well built unit all stainless and well thought out.
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Originally Posted by tommymonza
Interesting but I think the cooling potential is limited.Curious what the price is.Mermaid makes a 12 volt air conditioner that is a 110 unit running off an inverter,seems to be a well built unit all stainless and well thought out.
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You can buy a 5K cruisair for less a little less than $1,500. Spend a few bucks on a 2500 watt inverter and an extra battery and you'll have something MUCH better for just a little more money.....
( BTW: I ordered a 5K cruisair myself last week) |
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www.kooleraire.com for $39 if you don't mind ice..... :D
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Originally Posted by Clay Washington
Bay Air wants $1500! That's why I want to be sure. :(
Forget that! Go here: http://www.swampy.net/hprices.html I have experience with the swampy's, they really do work quite well. I really like the M300, very versatile and completely portable. |
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I can get a Zepher 5K BTU A/C for $1200, so I'm gonna pass on the Bay Air system.
Thanks guys! :cool: |
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That's a nice unit, but it will require about 500 watts to run.
It'll Need a gen. |
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Originally Posted by CigDaze
That's a nice unit, but it will require about 500 watts to run.
It'll Need a gen. |
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there is a company that is making a air that runs on 12 volts and two 12 volt batterys will run it for 8 hrs. i know velocity has been putting some of these in and i heard they work good you can add a battery charger system and when you are pluged in the shore power they will run forever and recharge the batterys for away for the dock use of the air
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Originally Posted by Clay Washington
Yep :(
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Gentlemen,
I stumbled across this thread and would like to answer some of the questions that have been raised about the Patented Bay Air Cooling System. A good rule of thumb for ice consumption is around 10 lbs per hour. We recommend a 2-3 cubic foot ice compartment for overnighting. Our system works much like a conventional A/C system, in principal. We are circulating a coolant through a heat exchanger and a fan blows across the exchanger and cool air is created. However, instead of using an energy consuming compressed gas, we are using water that is around 32 deg. F. The air that is emitted from our unit is actually cooler than a compressed gas system due to the risk of a compressed gas system freezing up. Our unit will not freeze over. The Bay Air System is not a swamp cooler. Swamp coolers only work in areas with low humidity. Our unit will work in all climates and in fact our unit is an excellent de-humidifier which is half the battle in creating a comfortable environment. Let me explain how the system works. We use a standard Attwood 750gph pump. This pump is inherently an on-off pump. Through our control unit we have converted the pump into a variable speed pump. We have two controls on our unit, one fan speed control (High, Medium, and Low) and a temperature control. Let's say you set the temperature to 72 deg. and turn the unit to high fan. The system immediately begins to emit cool air and begins monitoring the cabin air temperature and comparing it to the set temperature of 72 deg. Once the cabin air temperature approaches 72 deg. the pump begins to slow down. Once the cabin air temperature of 72 deg. is achieved the pump slows to whatever speed to maintain that temperature. This is how our unit maintains the desired temperature in the cabin and also conserves ice. More ice is used in the first part of the cool down process where you are requiring the most energy. Our unit only weighs 18lbs (25lbs for the ducted unit), and has a 6500 BTU cooling capacity. The advantages of our unit over other AC systems are: 1. You do not have to be connected to shore power allowing you to have AC anywhere on the water. 2. Maintaining a heavy bank of batteries is not required. Because of a max amp draw of only 3.3 amps one group 24 marine battery will power our unit for 20hrs. So multiple nights on the water can easily be achieved without a shore power recharge. Normally, the days activities is enough to replenish the battery to a full charge. 3. Run light when you want to. Our unit only weighs 18 lbs, add the ice when you need AC. 4. Most AC systems require generators and along with that comes the worry of carbon monoxide poisoning. 5. Installation is simple and clean. The Bay Air Cooling System is not the answer for everyone. It is however, an excellent cooling solution for those who don't have the room or want the permanent weight of a conventional system. Which brings me to this. We offer a 30/30 guarantee that blows away any warranty in marine air. If for any reason you are not satisfied with the system within 30 days of receiving it send it back and we will refund your money less shipping. Also, if the system fails for any reason within 30 months, other than submersion or abnormal abuse (Our unit will handle the rigors and abuse of high performance offshore power boating.) we will repair or replace the unit for free. Unit costs Standard Bay Air Cooling System $1500.00 Ducted Bay Air Cooling System $2300.00 If you have any further questions or would like to talk about your specific application, please call me at 251-554-1214. Thank you, Mark Mize |
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thanks for the info Mark :cool:
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I dont know about you guys but around here we use our cabins for 3 things, sleeping, screwing, and taking a piss. Overnighting @ marinas and boat clubs is really the only place to be, which have shore power. The big Cig coolers go through a crap load of ice on there own. :drink:
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Originally Posted by jmackin
I dont know about you guys but around here we use our cabins for 3 things, sleeping, screwing, and taking a piss. Overnighting @ marinas and boat clubs is really the only place to be, which have shore power. The big Cig coolers go through a crap load of ice on there own. :drink:
its hot in TEXAS :D :D |
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Clay must be afraid of the water. JUMP IN STUPID! :evilb:
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Originally Posted by jmackin
Clay must be afraid of the water. JUMP IN STUPID! :evilb:
he is afraid it would cause srinkage :evilb: |
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Good info Mark, nice post.
You're right, it's not an evaporative cooler, rather it's a closed-circuit heat exchanger cooler. My appologies for my use of term "Swamp" cooler, although in my neck of the woods, what you have is what we dubbed swamp coolers. :cool: As a matter of fact I've built quite a few, but not as sophisticated as yours. We'd use large insulated ice chests filled with ice and ran coiled copper tubing through the ice and brought it up above where it was once again coiled such that it was in the middle of an airstream(fan and 8" diameter ducting). I used fish tank pumps to circulate water through the copper tubing. Pretty elementary, but it worked wonders. :D :cool: |
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Mark, what boat companies are putting in your units as an option?
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The Concept guys have been using our product since 2001. Glasstream out of Panama City, Nor-tech, Cigarette has purchased a few. If you make a post on the Concept site inquiring about our unit you should get a response from someone who has used it. If you try our unit and aren't satisfied I'll refund your money less shipping. We also offer a 30 month warranty. This unit only requires ice, no maintenance.
Thank you for your interest. Best Regards, Mark Mize 251-554-1214 |
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Just throwing a thought on the table.....What a lot of folks use around here quite successfully is one of those $79 5k BTU window units from Home Depot or Lowes. They sit it either in the cabin door, or back against the bench seat with the cockpit cover on, and simply plug it into shore power at the dock using the proper adapter. The condensation of course simply drains to the rear cockpit drains.Weighs very little and gets put in the shed/garage when not in use. Depending on your bolster stand configuration/space they fit nicely bungied underneath the passenger seat with a boat cushion or foam layer if needed. It ain't pretty, and a bit "Jethro" but it's effective, cheap, and very portable.
Again, just throwin' a thought out there. |
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come on clay your killin me here, just take an extra claymate and give her a palm frond to fan you and the other claymates :D problem solved
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Originally Posted by tomtbone1993
he is afraid it would cause srinkage :evilb:
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Originally Posted by ratman
come on clay your killin me here, just take an extra claymate and give her a palm frond to fan you and the other claymates :D problem solved
Bottom line... I want the option to have some air conditioning on my boat during the hot summer months here in Texas. I only live 5 miles from the marina. If I can get the boat back into the slip, I doubt that I will sleep onboard. I will just drive home. I have researched several options, and I think that a permanent, build-in unit that runs on shore power (or a portable generator) is my best option. I will still consider a pre-owned 115V "suitcase" A/C unit, but only if the price if right. :cool: http://pics.goboating.com/pics/produ...olAC_08_03.jpg |
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Here is a picture of the Bay Air installed in a Baja 25 Outlaw.
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Go anchor in the middle of the lake and hide in your cabin till you kill your batteries!
If I knew you were such a wuss I would of charged you double to haul your boat to TX. :bunny: |
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Originally Posted by jmackin
Go anchor in the middle of the lake and hide in your cabin till you kill your batteries!
If I knew you were such a wuss I would of charged you double to haul your boat to TX. :bunny: The A/C is not for me. I love the heat! It's for the Claymates! :D It's ALL about the Claymates! :p |
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Just messing w/ you. FYI, I paid $400 for my suitcase ac used, but they are hard to find.
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Originally Posted by jmackin
. . . our cabins for 3 things, sleeping, screwing, and taking a piss. Overnighting @ marinas and boat clubs is really the only place to be, which have shore power. . . . :drink:
isnt that the LEOPA motto :D :drink: :drink: |
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Nice installation steel outlawed. How long have you had your unit?
Mark Mize |
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I don't have the boat anymore, but I bought the unit about 3 years ago. I used it for two years before I sold the boat. It worked good for us.
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Here is our canopy cooler :eek:
Turbine Marine's 24V electric A/C compressor module and mounting bracket. Module has 14,000 BTU of cooling power. |
Originally Posted by Clay Washington
(Post 1660764)
I'm not worried about ice comsumption. I can always get more ice. I just want a cool place to enjoy the BJ chair! :D
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