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Re: 9O MPH / 41 Apache race
I guess you can tell, I don't work for Pulte
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Re: 9O MPH / 41 Apache race
Yea Bill, It's gonna be a good summer!! :drink: :evilb:
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Re: 9O MPH / 41 Apache race
Originally Posted by Tonto
Cris,
He was asking the question about the older "90MPH" model Cig, not one that goes 90 mph. I guess the biggest difference that I can see is that one is a production boat and the other is a custom boat. Sort of like buying a home from Pulte Builders or hiring a custom home builder. Robert Sorry to tell Robert but your totally wrong. No Cig is production boat, we all know that... either is a Apache. Because all race setup Apache's look the same ( a little different here and there but that's it) as well as the pleasure ones, but that still doesn't mean it's a "production" boat. I have always said your Apache is my fav but i can assure you the "90 mphCig " was not a production boat. I mean they only made 5, and each of those 5 were different. Different paint, different hatches and so on Jr Mike |
Re: 9O MPH / 41 Apache race
Jr.
I didn't mean to step on any toes here, what I should have said was that the Cigs are semi-custom boats and the Apaches are custom boats. Robert |
Re: 9O MPH / 41 Apache race
Still don't agree..... but everyone has there own 00.2 and i respect
jr Mike |
Re: 9O MPH / 41 Apache race
Originally Posted by thedonz
No Cig is production boat, we all know that... either is a Apache.
Jr Mike |
Re: 9O MPH / 41 Apache race
Apache... each boat was commissioned for its owner.
Duh, come to think of it... alot of boats are like that... Magnum, Pantera are just two i can think of. Too bad magnum mark ain't around, he'd be able to make sense of this. |
Re: 9O MPH / 41 Apache race
Originally Posted by Chris Sunkin
I think it's all in how you define the term "custom". In the instance of Cigarette, I'll agree their boats are built-to-order. On the other hand, it's never been unusual for their dealers- especially the larger ones- to order boats for their own inventories. In other words, a spec boat- one assembled to the specifications of the dealer and sold in as-constructed condition off his lot. In the case of Apache, I was never aware of that happening years ago and I don't think I've ever heard of McManus building one for an intermediary on a speculative basis. I think that's reflective of the types of companies they are and the scale on which each operates.
Apache.....Custom boat no question Just MO. |
Re: 9O MPH / 41 Apache race
Originally Posted by Stormrider
Apache... each boat was commissioned for its owner.
Duh, come to think of it... alot of boats are like that... Magnum, Pantera are just two i can think of. Too bad magnum mark ain't around, he'd be able to make sense of this. AMT Doug Write Just a couple of my favorites :drink: |
Re: 9O MPH / 41 Apache race
Originally Posted by Tantrum
Active Thunder
AMT Doug Write Just a couple of my favorites :drink: |
Re: 9O MPH / 41 Apache race
Maybe I can help you guys out on this .... Here goes ...
Custom boat = "Creative" pricing and "It'll be done ...When it's done..." Production Boat = List price is this and When do you want it ? Sound familiar ? :rolleyes: |
Re: 9O MPH / 41 Apache race
Originally Posted by LEOPAJM
Maybe I can help you guys out on this .... Here goes ...
Custom boat = "Creative" pricing and "It'll be done ...When it's done..." Production Boat = List price is this and When do you want it ? Sound familiar ? :rolleyes: How bout this one... a production boat uses a mold. :D |
Re: 9O MPH / 41 Apache race
Originally Posted by LEOPAJM
Maybe I can help you guys out on this .... Here goes ...
Custom boat = "Creative" pricing and "It'll be done ...When it's done..." Production Boat = List price is this and When do you want it ? Sound familiar ? :rolleyes: |
Re: 9O MPH / 41 Apache race
Originally Posted by thedonz
Sorry to tell Robert but your totally wrong. No Cig is production boat, we all know that... either is a Apache. Because all race setup Apache's look the same ( a little different here and there but that's it) as well as the pleasure ones, but that still doesn't mean it's a "production" boat. I have always said your Apache is my fav but i can assure you the "90 mphCig " was not a production boat. I mean they only made 5, and each of those 5 were different. Different paint, different hatches and so on
Jr Mike I don't think Tonto was trying to start anything. I think his point was that all of the Apaches were built for each customer depending on there needs. For example when Mark built our boat my height, waist, and prefered stance was measured, then the floor and the bolsters were built custom. I could even spec how much foam rubber I wanted to stand on in the cockpit. The floor height on WarHawk is different than Tonto. Tonto has a shorter dash, a slightly smaller engine room(the engine room bulkhead is pushed back), but a much larger cockpit than our boat. Allez Vite has a different fairing than Tonto and Warhawk because ApachePete wanted the fairing to extend farther down the cockpit. There are no 2 Apaches built the same. Carl |
Re: 9O MPH / 41 Apache race
Originally Posted by ApacheCarl
There are no 2 Apaches built the same.
Carl |
Re: 9O MPH / 41 Apache race
Originally Posted by Chris Sunkin
Yeah, even if they were trying to ;)
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Re: 9O MPH / 41 Apache race
Originally Posted by ApacheCarl
Mike
I don't think Tonto was trying to start anything. I think his point was that all of the Apaches were built for each customer depending on there needs. For example when Mark built our boat my height, waist, and prefered stance was measured, then the floor and the bolsters were built custom. I could even spec how much foam rubber I wanted to stand on in the cockpit. The floor height on WarHawk is different than Tonto. Tonto has a shorter dash, a slightly smaller engine room(the engine room bulkhead is pushed back), but a much larger cockpit than our boat. Allez Vite has a different fairing than Tonto and Warhawk because ApachePete wanted the fairing to extend farther down the cockpit. There are no 2 Apaches built the same. Carl Carl i know Robert wasn't trying to start anything. He's an awsome guy.. I respect him very much. And like i have said he owns one of my favorite Apache. jr Mike |
Re: 9O MPH / 41 Apache race
Wasn't the first race in Miami this weekend ????? The 41 Pedator was racing in it, how did they do ??????????
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Re: 9O MPH / 41 Apache race
Originally Posted by ApacheCarl
Mike
Allez Vite has a different fairing than Tonto and Warhawk because ApachePete wanted the fairing to extend farther down the cockpit. There are no 2 Apaches built the same. Carl Glad to see you were payint attention, young fella. :D :D |
Re: 9O MPH / 41 Apache race
Twin step 38 Cig w/ Mercury power - extended warranties.
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Re: 9O MPH / 41 Apache race
Were is the 41 INXS,and Ultimate Warrior,they have always been my two favorite boats. :cool:
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Re: 9O MPH / 41 Apache race
Originally Posted by 1HYPER1
Were is the 41 INXS,and Ultimate Warrior,they have always been my two favorite boats. :cool:
Ultimate is still in Buffalo, still for sale w/ no power/drives. It may still be in the classifieds. |
Re: 9O MPH / 41 Apache race
Originally Posted by Chris Sunkin
Ultimate is still in Buffalo, still for sale w/ no power/drives. It may still be in the classifieds.
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Re: 9O MPH / 41 Apache race
It's been overpriced for that long. No mystery there. NK
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