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Old 04-08-2006, 10:40 AM
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Corparate greed.Alabama Power and a couple of wealthy land developers are trying to entice a Georgia company to build a couple of expensive developments,hotel,golf couses,etc and they won't come unless they get rid of the "undesirable" boats. Most of the land around 2 of the lakes is owned by the power co. and the developers.All 11 power co lakes,including mine, were originally included but we got 8 lakes removed. Word is next year they will come after other lakes.They spent well over 1/2 million on lobbyists
Don't want to tip your hand but if there is a proven connection to the developers... there have been other cases - can't remember exact ones but they were in Michigan ...one used the argument that if the lake is public and has a ramp and that historically the main usage for the body of water has been public enjoyment , then profitability cannot take precedence over public enjoyment. A proposal to the DNR by a marina for a no-wake zone is an example.... just a thought .
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Similar restrictions are in place on Lake Oconee in GA which is a Georgia Power Lake. The lakes in Alabama that would be covered are all Alabama Power Company lakes. The power companies "own" these lakes and have been accused of pushing these restrictions through the state legislatures to increase the value of shore line property that they are selling / leasing to developers. Both Georgia Power and Alabama Power are owned by Southern Company, a holding company for several power companies. File complaints with your state Public Service Commissions regarding Alabama Power and Georgia Power spending mega bucks on lobbyists to push these laws through which in turn result in our power rates increasing to cover their rising costs of doing business. The major boat builders had better step up to the plate and put some lobbists on the road to combat these issues. Pressure is the only thing that state and local politicans understand. That might get their attention.

The property developed by Randolph Properties on Lake Oconee Georgia is Reynolds Plantation and Randolph Properties is the same developer working with Alabama Power on the Alabama Power lakes. Large developers have been out of control since they tasted the fruits of having the government take property for their use to increase the tax base and having legislation passed to enhance the value of their properties. There are too many elected officials in to many places that are firmly in the pockets of real estate developers. Look at the reports filed on campaign contributions and you'll be amazed at how much real estate developers have given to your local officials. Our only recourse is to make them afraid to take the money by voting them out at the polls.


In every case that I am aware of this has been an issue only on power company lakes with the legislation being given full support of Georgia Power, Alabama Power, etc. I suspect that Army Corp of Engineers Lakes and federal navigable waterways are a different ball game. Check land ownership records and you will most likely find that some of the land is owned by family members of the local officials that are introducing the legislation masked as pro-environment packages. At least it always seems to work that way in Georgia.

This bill was passsed in 2003 -

House Bill 444 (AS PASSED HOUSE AND SENATE)
By: Representative Channell of the 77th



A BILL TO BE ENTITLED
AN ACT


To amend Code Section 52-7-13 of the Official Code of Georgia Annotated, relating to boating safety zones, restrictions on use of motors and operation of houseboats on certain lakes, and exceptions, so as to prohibit operation of certain vessels on Lake Oconee; to repeal conflicting laws; and for other purposes.

BE IT ENACTED BY THE GENERAL ASSEMBLY OF GEORGIA:

SECTION 1.
Code Section 52-7-13 of the Official Code of Georgia Annotated, relating to boating safety zones, restrictions on use of motors and operation of houseboats on certain lakes, and exceptions, is amended by striking subsection (g) and inserting in lieu thereof the following:
"(g) The operation of any of the following vessels on Lake Oconee shall be prohibited:
(1) Any motorized vessel greater than 30 feet six inches in length; except for law enforcement, scientific research, or dam operation and maintenance craft or a vessel not greater than 40 feet in length used for conducting group tours on behalf of the owner or operator of a REAP certified by the Department of Community Affairs under Code Section 50-8-192; or
(2) Any vessel equipped with any type of bypass mechanism that reduces or eliminates the effectiveness of the muffler or baffler system required by Code Section 52-7-10.
(h) The provisions of this Code section shall not apply to vessels engaged in any activity authorized under Code Section 52-7-19."

SECTION 2.
All laws and parts of laws in conflict with this Act are repealed.

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Nooooo .......... That is some amount of crap. FIght that ! Its beatable.
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How large is the lake in Ga?

Was any big boats or "cigar boats" boats over 26' 11" capable of 60mph on the lake before the bill?

Yes -- Alabama is following this bill--- same developers/same power company

Both Dial-- the senator & Liard the house rep- are in the real estate business on Lake Harris--- the lake to be dev.
They introduce the bill in the house and senate - only 4 weeks ago. Waiting to be sign by Gov.

Lake Martin --- by for the most popular lake in Alabama--
many boats will be banned

Any suggestions --appreciated

we have a meeting tomorrow -to discuss-- the bill w/its many loop holes

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DJF

How large is the lake in Ga?

Was any big boats or "cigar boats" boats over 26' 11" capable of 60mph on the lake before the bill?

Yes -- Alabama is following this bill--- same developers/same power company

Both Dial-- the senator & Liard the house rep- are in the real estate business on Lake Harris--- the lake to be dev.
They introduce the bill in the house and senate - only 4 weeks ago. Waiting to be sign by Gov.

Lake Martin --- by for the most popular lake in Alabama--
many boats will be banned

Any suggestions --appreciated

we have a meeting tomorrow -to discuss-- the bill w/its many loop holes

Thanks
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Lake Oconee was completed in 1980 and Georgia Power had some regulations in place before the law was passed.
Shoreline: 374 miles
Surface area: 18,971 acres
Formed by: Wallace Dam
Source: Oconee and Appalachee Rivers

The Southern Company and the developer are formidable opponents. Good luck.

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Any boats banned that was on the lake?


How do they enforce it? w/o a speed limit

boats over 26' 11" capable of exceeding 60
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What cracks my a$$ up is, "How many BassBoats are capable of speeds over 60 mph?" These are far more dangerous at 70 mph than a 30' sportboat at 70 mph!

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