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That's great. First, is it going to be on tv? Second, will there be a dvd availble to buy? Also I didn't mean to leave out the left coast by talking about Miami to Bimini. Any open ocean race would be awesome to watch. As for orss most of the recent crashes that people where hurt in that I know about in races mostly happened in the extremly tight corners. Not many tight corners in ocean racing. Sorry if I offended you about your spelling.

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i been doing races for 16 years as a recue diver and safety adviser and i can tell you the % of accident in the straight are equal to those in corners, if you ruining a cat and you take to much air in tunnel or a Cross wind well they go over, deep v's in jumps they landed wrong and get destroy, i recommended you see the video of freeze frame and you find out how can accidents happen, rf
ps; please forgive my spelling

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I didnt know there was an ocean on the left coast. :evilb: :eek: :D

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:drink:

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Yup.


TV and all the details surrounding the event are forthcoming. Raul (orss) knows his s**t.

Were bringing some heavy duty hardware out there to run.

I understand there are some serious V-s coming out to prove their worth as well.

M

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thanks max,

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finally a REAL offshore race

mike

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your killing me here :evilb:

mike

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I heard the water can get pretty big out there (pacific). Summer usually lays down a little on the East Coast. How about out west?

m

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bjlesl:
You bring up good points but I question the order. You are absolutely right about the "show" and that's the one thing boat racers in general have a had time comprehending. That's not meant as an insult but rather it stems from the root of "my boat is faster than yours". NASCAR came from similar roots but Bill France Sr. put the reigns on it and literally developed the "show". (Do you remember the yellow flags in the "old" days when apparently nothing happened?)That and cars that looked like regular cars is what started attracting fans and once fans are attracted television sees a demand. You do not get the television contract first.
Offshore racing has been on ESPN and on Speed Channel to mention a few but each time it dies a somewhat slow death. It's a great show to a racer if his/her boat is on it. If not, then it's not a good show. It's also not a good show if the leader of the race isn't featured but shots of one boat racing does not excitement make.
Get the "show" together .... that attracts crowds ... crowds attract television ... television attracts sponsors.
We had a very good discussion on this site last year and I am always glad to see it come up because hopefully, one of these times, it will be paid attention too. The decision has to be made to go forward all on the same page either to build the sport or to leave it where it is right now.
Just some thoughts for all racers to ponder.

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Generally if your back before 2:00 then your in 2-3's. After 2:00 it's 4-5's. Like the East Coast, it all depends on the weather.

There are a couple of nice bumps on the course. If you catch one of the many pleasure cruisers or Catalina Express, you'll turn into an air show.
:D

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its nice today i think i will go boating,
how is the snow?
:drink:

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There isn't any snow here in Jersey. It's about 68 and bright sun shine. I am jelous though I can't go out I'm still working.

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Actually, Not many years ago we had a strong sanctioning body and a great TV show. Something you may not realize is the sanctioning body had to PAY to get that TV show filmed, produced, edited and televised. That's right, they lost a lot of money getting those TV shows on the air. In the old Central Division / Great Lakes days it was the racers that shared most of the expense of the TV show. A few sponsors came along, but it seemed to me that some of the businesses that got the most, (and best) publicity from the exposure also paid the least.
The good side was the TV show generated a lot of excitement in Offshore racing and attracted new teams and racers come into the sport. A few of the new teams can't understand why racing is so expensive so they try to re-vamp the sport of offshore racing and Wa-La !! History repeats itself... again. :(

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Boatnutz & Flamenco you guys have good pionts. Your right some of the sponsorship issues or fixes are not in order. That was mainly in reply to an earlier post that basiclly said that there is no way to sell an open ocean event. Also Nascar has there issues we have gotten a lot of heat about cookie cutter 1.5 mile tracks ( not thrilled about that either ). Me personally I loved Rockingham ( won races there ) & the other short tracks that are no longer on the schedule. But, just because that is our current course of action that doesn't stop people from voicing there thoughts. In a nut shell I'm one boater that owns an offshore boat that would love to see a little more varety in the race courses. That was really the piont of this thread. I got into everything else when I started see all the reasons an open ocean race wouldn't work. Like I said in an earlier post I know it would be hard but, it would be a hell-of-a-show. I still think Outerlimits would win. ( couldn't help myself )

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Couldnt have said it better..
Real offshore is so far from Nascar its not funny !
Id say closer to the Americas cup ..
Big water offshore racing has proven again and again to be a rich mans hobby. Im not shooting it down , id love to see some big water racing for a change, I just dont ever think it will be Nascar..nor is nascar a good role model for an offshore series

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good morning guys,BJLESL, i think you have really good intentions but for my look like you have to do a better research of what are you talking about, nascar never can be compare with offshore boat races , there a lot of difference in the mater of organizations, during the last 50 year nascar bee working in what they are today,in the offshore races they change every year , who run where , new organizations , different set up for engines , different requirements. an in the safety point of view, nascar run in a close enviroment, so maked easy in case of an accident happen,rf