Strength needed as well as looks
 

I'm in the market for a 28' to 33' w/ twin IO. Ideal setup is 500 HP +/- X 2. I don't need to break 80 (although it would be nice) but would like to cruise reliably at 60. The most important thing is that the hull will stay in one piece and rigging is solid as well.

Right now I'm focused on Cigarette, Fountain, Hustler, Pantera, Sutphen.

Question for you all:
Am I wrong to consider these hulls as playing in the same ball park?
Who belongs, who doesn't?
Have I missed any manufacturers?

Thanks in advance for the feed back.

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ck out Active Thunder 32 i thinl Pat had one at the factory that someone traded in on a new 37, had 500 hps

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What price range?

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all boats you have mentioned are great boats that won't fall apart. Also look at 32AT, 33 Donzi, 31 Sonic

I know of a clean 32AT for sale w/ 500's. There is a nice 31 Sonic in the OSO classifieds with 525's.

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28 foot range Pantera

33 foot range Powerplay

jr Mike

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cosmic & HP...32AT where do I find addnl info?

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Check the active thunder owners forum. They also have a website, but the 32 is not on there since it was just replaced with the new 33.

Here are 2 that i know of that are for sale...

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Thanks HP...I'll check out the AT
Whats the deadrise on the Sonic vs. the others that I mentioned?

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They are all the same at 24*. The Fountain, I think is the only on with a pad. The pad generaly will give you a higher top speed, but may be a little rougher ride in big waves unless you dance it on top. :cool:
There are only a few that use a 25* hull.

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After rereading your post, I am not sure what Sutphen has for a deadrise.

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I believe some Sutphens, maybe all, have a 26 degree deadrise.

Add Formula to the mix.

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Ummm .... :cool:

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Denny, where you live and boat, and whats ur budget?
And who will be boating w/ you and how will you be using the boat?

Oh yea... new or used?

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Pantera is a great all around boat. Rides like a 32 in the rough. Will run in anyhting.

I think if the photos above are a SABER (28). Also a good choice. Right JM

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31 Sonic and 32 Active Thunder would be top of the list in the used market.

31 Formula, 31 Cigarette, and 33 Donzi would be right up there as well.

If shopping new, I would be all over the 33AT as well as the 32 Sunsation SS.

I really like the Pantera 28, but can anyone define why it would need twin stock BBC? I have seen plenty with single 600-750HP. It seems to me that a twin BBC application in a 28 Pantera (same with 28 Sonic, which is now discontinued) would be an ideal setup. Too much motor(s) just to get the weight of the motors up on plane; or is the idea to have this power, even though its probably not the most ideal setup, just to have stock warrantied power? The 28 Sunsation, 28 AT have never been (unless a rare one-off) twin engine boats. Formula and Fountain will build you this size craft with twin SBC. Donzi will build a 28 with a single BBC or twin SBC.

Don't count out a 496 powered boat either. If you are out of warranty, or don't care about the warranty, simple and reliable upgrades are plentiful including headers and Raylar engine upgrades to make the engines more powerful than 500EFIs for less cost.

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I would look at the 28 Pantera in the classified with the twin 650's. You will get more usefull info if you let us know how much $$$ you want to spend.

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http://www.offshoreonly.com/esvon/page-9560.html
Saber 28s are ROCK SOLID

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Active Thunder 1800-700-3053 you want to talk to Pat, tell em I sent ya :drink: :D go on the Active thunder threads and read some ithink you will find most all very positive about them. Pat even posts his cell phone#

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Powerplay. You wont find a better rigged boat.

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just really need a $$$ range your lookin at, or ur choices will be endless

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still no pricerange????????

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My 35 sonic has a 25* deadrise.

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In terms of $$ I'd like to stay between 40K - 50K (with trailer).
Older hulls do not scare me as long as they are well built. Engines pop in and out easily enough but what I do not want is major stress cracks, rattles, stringer plms, etc.

Thanks for all the input

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I'm selling a 74 27' Sport...probably the strongest boats ever made. Let me know if your interested.

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28 pantera in the classifieds!
There is also a nice 29 scarab there too.

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I LOVE my 31-foot Cigarette Bullet. I GPSed at 70 with twin HP500's.

It's never gonna break 80 with that power, but I still love it! :D

You can't go wrong with a Cigarette...

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I’ve seen Rich Sutphen Jr. build boats just like his Dad’s, Richie Sr. They’re lay-up is as bulletproof as any boat in production. Their boats are fully cored in the hull, sides and deck with marine plywood in the hull. They use vinyl ester resin with multiple layers of bi and tri glass in a lay-up schedule that they still keep close to the hip. Rich Jr. builds the 21 and 26 (available with twin SB’s) in NJ and Rich Sr builds the 32, 35 and 39 in Fl. Rich Sr has a red 32 hull in production which is available. All Sutphens 26' and up run on a 26 degree deadrise with no steps or gimmicks. I don’t think you could go wrong with any of your choices but make sure your not paying extra $$$ for a beak and platform when you compare LOA. Good luck.

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You wont break this one !
http://www.offshoreonly.com/esvon/page-8794.html

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Some nice Powerplays in their!!! INDUSTRUCTABLE!!! I get to see my first pp tomarrow!! :evilb:

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I am in same exact market however, I need to hit at least 85 :). I have narrowed down to Active Thunder 32, Sunsation 32SS or Lavey Craft 32. AT is leading so far...

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Check out the 28 Saber that was just listed in the classifieds.