Jay Ross joins Active Thunder ????
 

Got a call last evening that Jay has joined the Active Thunder team. Frank Marchone has also joined up with Pat, to put together a really experienced group of professionals that could and I'm sure have a real impact.

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I guess the cat is out of the bag.

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I am guessing it has to do with the Apache molds?????

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Not at all. Jay Ross is the former owner/founder of Sonic USA from way back in the day.

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Glad you guys are off that mold. Better deal all the way around, similiar interests in two somewhat similiar boats. I Look forward to the larger additions added to the AT family. :cool: Jeff

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This has been confusing to me, didn't Active Thunder get folded into the new company Chief? Are they back now on their own as AT :confused:

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AT was NEVER folded into Chief.

Chief and AT did not merge companies. At one time, you could have gotten an AT hull built by AT/Pat with Bobby Saccenti influence and the Chief name on the side under a marketing agreement, but that was it. It was a limited time engagement, and that time has passed. You could have called it a joint marketing venture or marketing merger; but the companies were always separate.

Chief is concentrating on their 42 & 47 hulls and is still in business.

Active Thunder is business as usual, (actually a few new things are up and coming with AT too; namely new personnel and a radical new wood, aluminum, and Corian cabin on the new 33AVH).

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I think this is great and I hope every thing works out. I have the greatest respect for both Pat and Jay. They should make a great team as long as Jay does't talk Pat into using cheap hardware. Joe Murray

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[QUOTE=Sydwayz]AT was NEVER folded into Chief.

sorry this topic has always been confusing
http://www.offshoreonly.com/forums/s...5&page=1&pp=30

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I think Jay should have gone over and straightend out sonic's problems!

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I wish Pat (A/T) would start building the 33' PP molds :D

I know ME has the molds and can build them, they just don't seem to be building them.....or very few

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Congrats to Jay its good to see him back in the boating business :drink:

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Question,
Does AT have any boats racing in any of the Offshore Curcuits?
Thanks,
Dean

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Best of luck to Jay, looks like Sonic missed a great opportunity to get him back.

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I know Frank very well( worked with him for several yrs) hes a great guy and knows his sh*t, he should be a great adition to there team


BEST OF LUCK FRANK!!!!!! :evilb: :evilb:

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There are a handful of boats out there in race trim. Gordo has a 25 and there is a 37 named Outlaw that bounces around on the circuits. A good friend nearly raced his 37AT in F2 a few years ago, but his wife at the time talked him out of it in preference of going with a canopy boat (continues to race a canopy cat).

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Brian,
Yeah, I remember seeing the "Outlaw" boat in Daytona 2003, I think it was running one of the P classes. But as far as running any of the F1 or the F2 classes, is there any AT running full time?
Thanks,
Dean

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Not to my knowledge (admittedly limited). :D

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Outlaw was built to run F-2. The owner/ driver put in more power to run the P class about 2 years ago.

It was pretty much SBI so maybe it will show up on their site.

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I thought ALL active thunders were race boats??? Seriuosly though, is there any kind of factory AT race boat record of any kind? None at all. Why not? CanDo

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Well, I will let Gordo state records. He raced back then. He knows the facts.

Once it became a 'cheaters game' I pulled out.

Odds are most here weren't there then.

There are different ways to promote your products. If winning a race makes you buy the boat then we aren't for you. But I bet you fifty bucks, for the long haul in the ocean, I get from point "A" to point "B" before you if we are in equally sized, equally powered machines.

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theres been cheating in every type of racing since racing began. Offshore racing is no different, and have always thought it was a poor reason to quit. suspect cheaters are subject to teardowns after winning races. This is allowed under the "rules". its all part of the competitive spirit of racing. So much for the quote "Racing on Sunday, sells boats on Monday". Now who was that, that said that...?

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Talk, Talk, Talk. Look this is very simple and Pat has told you how to resolve this discussion. Although my experience is limited, you will have a hard time beating an AT equipped with the DDC hull.

Those that win at racing put an extraordinary amount of money into the sport and are continuously looking for / finding ways to circumvent the rules. Does finding ways to bend break rules make the boat your buy better, faster, safer ? By the way I meant this question to be rhetorical.

If you really want to know, take Pat up on his $50 bet. The most it will cost you is $50 and gas money and whatever "pride" is worth to you.

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After working for the local Active, Fountain,Sonic and now Cigg dealer for the Last 5 yrs I have to agree with Pat,

Each boat has a nich Fountain = speed Sonic = Price Cigg = Fit and finish

Active has all the bases covered at a Reasonable price...
has Superior Graphics, great fit and finish and a great ride

Its not all about winning races If you strip out a boat put big power in it any boat could win, but that costs big money Where do you think it comes from??? The selling price of the new product


Ive driven just about every boat out there after 25 yrs building drives and mtrs and Active is one of the few that pretty much covers all the bases and doesnt cost out of this world money


And Now with Frank Marchone in there I m sure we'll be seeing a whole lot more of them out there ........ Ive known Frank and worked with him for several yrs and one thing about Frank he cares about his customers and wants to see them happy at any cost ( even if it ment me working on there boat on Sunday)

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Gordo raced his 25 Active back in 1998-1999 in APBA F1. It was a very competitive boat for F1 back then especially unlike the other F1's Gordo's boat was a pleasure boat complete with all the cabin amenities! If my memory serves me correctly he placed 3rd in the F1 Worlds in Biloxi.

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http://www.boats.com/listing/boat_de...e&showMD=false

outlaw 37AT!!!!!!!!!!!! :rolleyes:

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Jay and Patrick together! Truly a winning combination. I know and like both of them. They forgot more than many boat builders know!

Kinda' like when Joe Walsh joined the Eagles.