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Fenderjack 04-13-2012 02:25 PM


Originally Posted by madhatter42 (Post 3662907)
Go out some place in open water, and practice to see how the boat reacts etc, the only tip I can say is experience, experience, experience....

Do not come in hot...if you manage to screw up, back out and do it again, don't panic...slow and steady wins when it comes to docking...there's no first place for smashed fiberglass or how loud that lovely noise you hear when you smash the dock coming in overly aggressively...

Excellent advice. every boat, prob configuration will react a little different.. Good luck :drink:


John jr

customryder 04-13-2012 04:33 PM

you can also use trim tabs mostly when backing.. to move the nose around (one down one up) helps on staggar set up.. put them both down while back and it seems to settle things down and gives you more control... learned this helps backing big time.

Too Stroked 04-13-2012 05:28 PM

The thing I always teach new twin engine owners at the marina I work at goes like this. Stand (or sit) square to the helm facing forward. Grasp the starboard shifter with your right hand and the port shifter with your left. Now for the big thing to remember: The boat goes where your shoulders go.

Think about it and try it. Works every time. Taught to me by a great guy many, many years ago.

Raylar 04-13-2012 06:02 PM

Kinda surprised I did'nt see anyone here on this thread talk to much about dock lines, fenders and their importance in docking a boat. The two biggest problems generally in docking a boat, inboard, I/O, or otherwise are wind blowing off or onto the dock, across a slip and currents doing the same things. Always have adequate length dock lines at hand during docking manuvers as well as fenders for preventing knocks agains docks, piles, other boats etc. Make a nice light line monkeys paw throwing line to quickly attach to the end of a dock line for getting the dock line safely to someone on the dock without sometimes getting to close to objects in strong winds or currents and to avoid having bodies standing on the slippery beautiful front decks where usually a strong throwing heave sometimes ends up with the tosser on their butt or worse over in the water in trouble or injured.
Learn how to use your docklines with fenders as pivots and spring lines to aid in docking with wind on the dock or trying to move off the dock against winds and currents or in tight end to end side ties where theres little room to manuver out of a tight spot.

There is nothing sometimes more dangerous as docking a boat in not so favorable conditions as one usually sees when the weather was suppossed to be perfect with light or no winds.

There is nothing more impressive around boats as watching an expierenced boater using all the tools of docking calmly, slowly and safely.

As others have said here also,

PRACTICE,PRACTICE,PRACTICE! SLOW,SLOW,SLOW!

If you get in trouble during docking, just remember where neutral is on the helm, as you can always fend off to abort a failed manuver and prevent damage and injury. Trying to use power and rpms in those situations just makes it worse and leads to major damage and injuries!

Just some extra thoughts and advice.

Best Regards,
Ray @ Raylar

TWIN-SPINS 04-13-2012 06:19 PM

pick a wide slip,,practice getting in and out of the slip forward and backing in ,stay in the center of the well at first,,,as you get more comfortable start moving closer and closer to the docks

eicon 09-19-2012 09:13 PM

here is a guide i found that talks about the basics of twin engine controls. The hardest thing is keeping your hands of the wheel!
http://www.texasstarz.com/twin-throttles.html

akaboatman 09-19-2012 10:40 PM


Originally Posted by Raylar (Post 3663050)
Kinda surprised I did'nt see anyone here on this thread talk to much about dock lines, fenders and their importance in docking a boat. The two biggest problems generally in docking a boat, inboard, I/O, or otherwise are wind blowing off or onto the dock, across a slip and currents doing the same things. Always have adequate length dock lines at hand during docking manuvers as well as fenders for preventing knocks agains docks, piles, other boats etc. Make a nice light line monkeys paw throwing line to quickly attach to the end of a dock line for getting the dock line safely to someone on the dock without sometimes getting to close to objects in strong winds or currents and to avoid having bodies standing on the slippery beautiful front decks where usually a strong throwing heave sometimes ends up with the tosser on their butt or worse over in the water in trouble or injured.
Learn how to use your docklines with fenders as pivots and spring lines to aid in docking with wind on the dock or trying to move off the dock against winds and currents or in tight end to end side ties where theres little room to manuver out of a tight spot.

There is nothing sometimes more dangerous as docking a boat in not so favorable conditions as one usually sees when the weather was suppossed to be perfect with light or no winds.

There is nothing more impressive around boats as watching an expierenced boater using all the tools of docking calmly, slowly and safely.

As others have said here also,

PRACTICE,PRACTICE,PRACTICE! SLOW,SLOW,SLOW!

If you get in trouble during docking, just remember where neutral is on the helm, as you can always fend off to abort a failed manuver and prevent damage and injury. Trying to use power and rpms in those situations just makes it worse and leads to major damage and injuries!

Just some extra thoughts and advice.

Best Regards,
Ray @ Raylar

Well said Raylar. An I would like to add. Props turning in compared to turing out on v bottoms. Hard to dock an less lift in turns. Think obout it. Not worth it. Do You really like laying on the side of Your boat or the flat in a turn for 1 to 2 mph on top end ??? Artie

HavinATantrum 09-20-2012 08:26 AM

Bravo 3
 
Never had or operated a Twin with Bravo 3's but always wondered if they operated or had the same manners around the dock as Bravo 1's. Can someone shed some experience?

Greatguy66 09-20-2012 08:31 AM

Going from a single you will love it no gas just foward&reverse until boat is strait then let current or wind do the rest!

Sydwayz 09-20-2012 09:19 AM


Originally Posted by Greatguy66 (Post 3780514)
Going from a single you will love it no gas just foward&reverse until boat is strait then let current or wind do the rest!

There are times where you will use the throttle as well, especially in current and/or wind.

Knot 4 Me 09-20-2012 10:38 AM


Originally Posted by HavinATantrum (Post 3780507)
Never had or operated a Twin with Bravo 3's but always wondered if they operated or had the same manners around the dock as Bravo 1's. Can someone shed some experience?

Buddy of mine has a Formula 350 SS with Bravo III's. It has Axius so 99.9% of the time you are using the joystick to dock it. A couple of years ago just for shats and giggles I backed it using the shifters up to the outside of a friend's dock. I really didn't notice much difference in how it reacted compared to Bravo I's. You would really need to manuver two identical boats, other than the drives, to know for sure.

Scabby Jack 09-20-2012 11:29 AM

Great thread...thanks to all who have shared their knowledge!

30ftpanther 09-20-2012 03:03 PM

Has anyone ever docked a v hull with twin i/o in a tight spot like this guy ? Post your videos. http://youtu.be/W36rDKl4T5s @1:10.

Griff 09-20-2012 03:58 PM


Originally Posted by MOP (Post 1745668)
I taught boat handling for 6 years included in the mix were some nasty powered ones, most I/O's tend to have the engines set to close for good up close maneuvering and are usually far better off docking on one engine. Try one engine docking and you will see little to no difference using either engine, the plus is you will get into less trouble as things happen in a more manageable fashion. I/O boats will always go in the direction the drive is turned steering works better then shifting. For one reason or another most boats have one engine that never dies and one that can be finicky, I always told my clients do your docking with the finicky one, if it craps out there is -0- panic simply grab the reliable ones shifter and finish docking. Using that practice has stood well by many of my customers over the years, try it many will find it may make your life easier.

Phil

This has got to be one of the dumbest bits of docking advice that I have ever heard.

hp500efi 09-20-2012 05:02 PM

just watch out for these guys


http://youtu.be/3pmQn3lBhIY

WildThing47 09-20-2012 05:46 PM


Originally Posted by griff (Post 3780920)
this has got to be one of the dumbest bits of docking advice that i have ever heard.

+100.....

PDubs 09-20-2012 06:52 PM

We were presented with a similar situation when we visited my brother-in-law. Never had twins before, but his advice was basically get it to open water on the lake with no other traffic and get a feel for slowly turning in place, side docking, forward docking, etc. Just practice going slowly driving a bulldozer/tank, and you'll be fine. Worked for us.

US1 Fountain 09-20-2012 08:04 PM


Originally Posted by HavinATantrum (Post 3780507)
Never had or operated a Twin with Bravo 3's but always wondered if they operated or had the same manners around the dock as Bravo 1's. Can someone shed some experience?

Several of my dock buddies have cruisers with twins B3's. Night and day difference handling/ docking from us with twin B1's or Alphas. So much better.

HavinATantrum 09-20-2012 08:12 PM


Originally Posted by US1 Fountain (Post 3781119)
Several of my dock buddies have cruisers with twins B3's. Night and day difference handling/ docking from us with twin B1's or Alphas. So much better.

Good to hear, looking at a formula 28ss and it has B3's. Have experience with single and twin Bravos but wondered if the B3's pivoted better, and tracked straighter or worse. Sounds like better which is great news. Thanks

blefever 09-20-2012 08:31 PM

Someone once told me to "drive it like a BobCat" Problem is.....I never drove a Bob Cat!

But that did help me to understand what the boat will do when shifting back and forth with port and starboard motors/drives.

I still find most of the time best just to use both motors/drives and the wheel. If in tight quarters I do know how to spin a 360.

Greatguy66 09-20-2012 08:36 PM


Originally Posted by Sydwayz (Post 3780553)
There are times where you will use the throttle as well, especially in current and/or wind.

Very true just make sure they don't stick or idle high:readinghelp:

tcwcar 09-20-2012 09:49 PM


Originally Posted by Griff (Post 3780920)
This has got to be one of the dumbest bits of docking advice that I have ever heard.

I was thinking the sammmme thing......

And as far as docking it takes practice practice practice, i learned on a 41 foot flybrige CristCraft, it was like a kit on a windy day, and the most important thing i learned is that NEURTAL IS YOUR FRIEND... go slow slow slow and dont worry about the spectators, the know it all's, and how long it's taking you to get in the hole, it's your boat and your the capt. and one thats going to pay to have things fixed if something goes wrong......

89Mach1 08-06-2015 03:44 AM

Thought I'd bring this thread up to the top again as we just got our first twin, 93 32' Fountain. First trip out last night with it and I've got to say, I NEED PRACTICE!!! Totally different animal than a single engine boat. I could put the old boat anywhere and not even think about it, this one, oh boy.... Thank god for my ability to stay calm and my amazing girlfriend running all over the boat just in case we got too close. It'll take some time but I'm sure I'll get it.

I like the one piece of advise (don't remember who said it now but thanks) saying to think of yourself standing in the cross points of an X, seems easy to think about in the heat of the "battle", going to give that one a shot next time out.


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