Boat Transportation
 

I need a 38 Hustler on a Myco hauled from CT to L.A. in California in the next week or so. Anyone Availible?????

Thanks
Dan

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Call Jeff Murray AKA bgchuby01

909 816 1101

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Check with Jeff Murray..

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Had my Baja 272 shipped from Michigan to Los Angeles 3 months ago. $1.25/mile insured. No problems, delivered on time.

Let me know and I will forward you their contact info.

Chris

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chris, info pls.....

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http://www.21palms.com/

Ask for Maria and tell her Chris from Los Angeles sent you.

Very nice and more importantly honest people.

BTW, not pickup trucks either, real monster towing trucks with cabs and all. (like in the picture)

Let me know how it works out.

Chris

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To ChrisF, I am going to call them and ask them what that I am doing wrong. At todays fuel prices and insurance costs you can not go down the road at 1.25 per mile. The cost factor is higher. Just my 02 cents

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You can if you dont stop at strip clubs!!!!! Hey, that girl from the VIP room at Pops wants to know when you will be back.... she said her rent is due.

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the trucks in the pics are just f-450/550's ? or am i missing something?

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after looking at the website yes thats a ford truck with the same motor as mine. Not a monster truck as someone may think. To cover the costs of drug tests, log books and proper maintinence, and proper commercial cargo insurance $1.25 can't be done. not today or tomorrow. I have been in commercial trucking for too long with class 8 trucks not to know the real cost factor per mile. Todays fuel costs are over #3.00 per mile in most states. And yes I need a higher rate to support all of the single moms out there working the poles at night

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As far as I can tell, the only thing you're doing wrong, is trying to actually earn a living out there. :( You're exactly right. At $1.25 a mile, you're not making any money, you're just keeping yourself occupied. This is partially the reason why I finally got myself completely out of the trucking / towing business a few years ago.

Just when you finally get a commercial account to agree to a reasonable set rate, or convince the general public in your area that such & such $ per mile is what I have to charge to provide good service with good equipment, ol' Johnny Super Trucker will roll in and lowball you, just to get the work. Guys like that seem to think that just because they're loaded and the wheels are turning, that they're actually making money. Until the end of the year when they add everything up and realize that they worked almost twice as hard as last year and may have actually made less. :eek:

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Jeff/everyone,

Relax. Different people or companies provide products and services to a different clientele. It is a part of capitalism. In my business, I am not the low end either, my clients appreciate the value added for the services I provide. On the other hand, I don't market to the low end, so the tools, equipment, and talent needed to be competitive in my market make me uncompetitive in the low end.

My point is, I had an easy self trailered 6500lbs. load to be delivered across the country to Los Angeles, I checked with you first and got your pricing. I asked if there was any room for movement on price, and you said no. I then went to an auction site and had 5 bids with $200 total of $1.25 a mile. The first one I chose (see above) was thorough in explaining to me the charges in detail, but also timing expectations, as well as pitfalls that may happen such as trailer problems, and those contigencies. Phone calls and email correspondance were addressed in a timely manner. In addition, I went to a website to verify a current DOT license, as well as had a certificate of insurance with current dates faxed to me within one hour of request. It worked, she got my business and everything worked out for me.

BTW, that is a monster truck to me, seemed fine to haul my big load :D I guess some here are taking this personally. There is no need, we can all make a living in this world.

Chris

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Chris, I am sorry if I came off the wrong way or offended you. There is a web site out there that you can bid on. Friends of mine and myself have seen it and it is mostly older retired people running for just the fuel money to keep busy. These people know nothing about boats except to back up to a trailer and tow. At the $1.25 you can't even break even with todays costs. I spoke to the guy last night who is buying this hustler and \gave him some pointers on transport and the boat whether he uses me or someone else. I know that when someone gives me their boat to move I take care of the boat like it is my own, from parking it to where no one can damage it to making sure the bearings have enough grease. large cargo insurance is not cheap to buy. And there is different types of insurace from just covering the boat or the type that will cover when parked overnight which is different. Also having a dot number is needed but they also have to have a ICC number to be able to haul for hire across state lines. These things cost time and money. I have a friend calling the above website today to get a price to haul a boat to find out if they have all of the real paperwork to be a real truck company becasuse again I will bow down to them if they can haul a multi hundred thousand dollar boat with everything legal for there cost. HayJay said it perfect, lots of people go down the road for just enough money to put fuel in the truck with no profit in the end. Again sorry if I offended anyone but when I see a price per mile that is below cost it makes me mad because the average boat owner sees the cheap price and goes for it not knowing that the hauler may not be legal or have the right experience with these boats.

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When fuel prices went up this year I sat down with my drivers (3) and explained that I would not be giving anyone a raise and we need to make our money multiple runs, not raising prices and hoping to get a few long hauls to cover the extra cost. I had to split my time between the drivers seat, dispatch, marketting and family at home.. And it has worked out. My company has been so busy moving boats this summer that I havent actually seen my Freightliner in 3 weeks. My Dodge is on the road litterally every day and I pull 4-5 days a week with the Ford. I picked up two accounts that tried to justify a $.50 per mile price increase when fuel prices went up $.20 per gallon. And we are hauling everything from ski boats to Outerlimits... Legally....Insured... ICC... DOT and without complaint. No fuel sur charges, no whinning.
I agree with Jeff that $1.25 is scary low. VERY SCARY!!! And I see the guys on the road pulling for that price, you get what you pay for. But if the job got done, and done right. I am glad to hear that you have your boat and saved a few bucks. Moving boats correctly is not something every driver can do. Trailers brake (All the time), loads shift, and parts fail. Not to mention launching or loading. Some of us charge a little extra for the years of experiance, I know both Jeff and myself do. But ask around and you will find that that experiance pays off in a bind.
Next time give Transport Solutions a call (714-878-7079) and we will give you our best quote!

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Well; I should drop this whole thing but it bugs me to have someone quote a price so low you know something is up. I took the ICC number of 21 Palms from above and ran it on a government website called SAFER which is a site trucking companies can use to see if another company is legal. Here is what I found. 21 Palms carries $750,000 in Liability insurance which is if she hits someone that is her insurance to pay for the damage to the other person. Here is the good part. It also lists her CARGO insurance and low and behold she carries a wopping $5,000.00 in insurance. There is her secret to a low price. Her cargo won't even pay for half of a myco trailer. Also it shows her company to have had her ICC suspended numerous times. So the truth comes out as to how someone can quote $1.25 per mile. But you the unsuspecting boat owner only see's that she has cargo in place but not the amount. I pity the pook guy that gave her the skater for her website picture if she had damaged his boat in anyway. He would have been up the creek with no paddle. Chris you are lucky that you did not have a problem if your boat had any damage. Thank you and good night

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I just read your above post, and all I could say is, the documentation I received made me confortable with the transaction, including the cargo limits portion that had the proper amount on my paperwork based on the value of my boat. In the end worked for me. If you are right Jeff, good I was lucky. I am not a allknowing kind of guy, so I will not put my reputation on the line for this referrel, but again it worked out, for a couple poeple who used them as well.

I just have to say, what you did above is real petty. It is one thing to mention that in your opinion, they don't run their business as well as you do, and you understand now why they are cheaper, but to flat out say they are screwing people, I hope your website research is accurate, because that is a SERIOUS accusation.

Another thing, my trailer did blow a bearing in Amarillo on a Sunday during the haul. Maria spent two hours calling around, found a trailer mechanic willing to go into his shop on a Sunday to fix it, no overtime $, repacked the axle and was on the road within 2-3 hours of the failure.

Chris

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You would have to be crazy to let just anybody haul your stuff... Jeff provided me with his info, contact information for his agent including policy number to verify coverages, and all of his updated info. Best part about Jeff is that not only does he know how to haul a performance boat but he can launch and bring the boat to your dock fueled and ready to run with no issues. He is one of us that hauls boats.... ask the SCOPE guys. I ended up having to fix a mess that a hauler made of a brand new Cigarette a few years go..... luckily they had some coverages.

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I am not saying that they are screwing people, what I am saying is that they are mis representing them selves as to their cargo limits. I even went to the trouble of calling their agent that is listed on the government site and they knew who that they were but said that the policy was cancelled. I am only telling you and everyone else what that I read on the government website. And this site is pretty acturate. It reflects what is in the ICC computer for every company for hire.
Also Chris I am not trying to be petty. what it boils down to is that If I get low balled on a price and I know that the low price can not be done unless there is some thing wrong with the pricture than I try to find out what the problem is. Her price makes me look like I am overcharging people to move there boats. I am just paying the real costs involved to to the job right. I am glad that it worked out for you and she may move other peoples boats and not have a problem. The problem only comes into play if she creates damage to a boat and her insurance company does not cover it and you and me know that she is not going to write a check to cover the difference

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That's some good digging and proves your point.In our biz the fuel has made a diff in our prices and we pass it on the the buyer.No choice.I would prob never need your services but this tread has some very good information .Thanks

I am sure there's some horror stories out there :eek:

One thought on her insurance of 750K.. if the driver had a accident and killed a bus load of children :eek: Would 750k be enough and after the 750k ran out would they go after the owner of the million dollar Skater that he was towing??

Goodluck guys

Rob :drink:

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Exactly my point, my hauler did not offer those kinds of services, but I didn't need nor was willing to pay for them either.

But why would I care if my hauler is also a boater. Loyalty is great, don't get me wrong, but I don't know Jeff, have no relationship with him, but was looking for the best price from a company that provided with me with legit documentation on coverages and DOT licensing. If Jeff is right, and they were screwing me, I had something in writing based on fraud. I won't say I would have won in court, but definetly did my due diligence to alieve my concerns.

Guys, this is just capitalism.

Chris

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I really think this comes down to a 30K used Baja and a 1000K Skater are two different markets for hauling, we can at least agree on that.

Anyway, to end, sorry to offend anybody, that wasn't my intent, just trying to help another OSO member out.

Chris

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I have a local guy that hauls for me,on long hauls and when my guy is tied up,I use Jeff.He and Jeff charge the same amount. I have other guys that want to haul for less but here is why I pay more. My local guy,like Jeff,is a boater. Most of our sales involve more than just drop the boat and go home. On our last delivery Andy had to launch the boat,take the buyer out,show him how to trim the drives in the turns,how to run the genset,a/c,even how to dock a twin engine boat. On the delivery before that the buyer wasn't sure how he wanted the boat propped,for acceleration or top end,so we sent an extra prop and Andy tried them both and made the customer happy.Andy (and Jeff) may charge more but it is worth it to me and gives me peace of mind,knowing they have the ability to make the new owner happy. Not knocking the other haulers at all,I'm sure they make things work also,I just feel more comfortable with a boat guy.Just my 2 cents.

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Rob used to be in the car carrier business> i gave a company out of pencacola florida 3 ecplorers from los angesl to houston. the truck crashed in covina and killed three people, I am still being sued 6 years later even though I did not own the truck or cars on it. they sued peterbuilt the trailer mfg and engine mfg and everyone elso they could think of. her 750 is ok but if she kills someone no amount of insurance is enough.

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You know what Jeff, our diasagreements aside, that really sucks to be in that situation. We have all been through hassels that were not our responsibility, not fun, and keeps you up at night.

Sorry to hear about that.

Lets bring on tort reform.

Chris

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Lets just execute all attorney's. Except for DHLAW. we can keep him around so Lucky Strike has someone to race against

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Last night my driver found out how the $1.25 per mile guys keep running. He walked out to the truck to find another hauler with a battery operated pump going into our fuel tank and into his...
Hmmm. funny how this goes along with this thread.

The guy should get out of the hospital next week.
They didnt get a drop... and my prices stay the same.

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I would like to add that I used Jeff on a haul from Floriday to NY. He did exactly what he said he would. He picked up the boat on a Monday and was in the NY area Wednesday. I paid $2.00/mile. He quoted me before a huge gas price increase and held the price per the quote. He was very professional and you can contact him the whole way. He even stopped in Jersey for me and topped of the tanks! I wouldnt hesitate to use him again.

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This sure as hell might be the new way. My boat storage facility was broken into 2 weeks ago on Sunday night. Boats -fine, electronics, nothing gone, what did they take?

Fuel, unloaded from about 25 boats. That must have been 2 -4000 gallons worth. I said to the storage lacky, nobody saw a friggin gas truck just hanging out all night? I mean the USCG is literally 2 doors down. He laughed.

My boat was in a different lot at the time, but got lucky. The storage guy said this is a sign of things to come, sort of like Mad max. :eek:

Chris