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t500hps 06-09-2006 08:36 AM

118 mph Formula 382
 
Loaded with genset and all, WOW!

http://www.everyboat.com/c/s/2001-fo...stech_1603.htm

Marginmn 06-09-2006 08:42 AM

Re: 118 mph Formula 382
 
I'm skeptical.

Need-the-Speed 06-09-2006 08:45 AM

Re: 118 mph Formula 382
 
That would be a real sleeper. I'm not sure how long those BMax will last with 1100h.p :eek:

SKRAMER 06-09-2006 08:48 AM

Re: 118 mph Formula 382
 
Thats fast.

offthefront 06-09-2006 08:51 AM

Re: 118 mph Formula 382
 
Boat is in Mooresville ..... I smell NASCAR .....

FeverMike 06-09-2006 08:52 AM

Re: 118 mph Formula 382
 
Doesn't Cuda need a new Formula? This one even has a Bimini top for him! :evilb: :D

Panther 06-09-2006 08:53 AM

Re: 118 mph Formula 382
 

Originally Posted by Need-the-Speed
That would be a real sleeper. I'm not sure how long those BMax will last with 1100h.p :eek:

How much to these boats weigh? Since the new BMax HT's are warrantied up to 950 hp on a 15K lb. boat I'd be curious to see as well! :cool:

RedDog382 06-09-2006 08:55 AM

Re: 118 mph Formula 382
 
Previous owner of my 382 had it rigged with 950 h.p. blower motors through Bravo drives and ran 114 m.p.h. He went through 4 sets of drives in less than 75 hours.

RedDog382 06-09-2006 08:57 AM

Re: 118 mph Formula 382
 

Originally Posted by Panther
How much to these boats weigh? Since the new BMax HT's are warrantied up to 950 hp on a 15K lb. boat I'd be curious to see as well! :cool:


Dry weight is #10,400 lbs, add 7 lbs/gal for fuel and #110 each for the ladies. :D

Panther 06-09-2006 09:18 AM

Re: 118 mph Formula 382
 

Originally Posted by RedDog382
Dry weight is #10,400 lbs, add 7 lbs/gal for fuel and #110 each for the ladies. :D

So 12,500 with a full tank couple people and some supplies. But, I don't think BMax rates it based on fuel etc., at least they didn't when I bought mine.

Panther 06-09-2006 09:21 AM

Re: 118 mph Formula 382
 

Originally Posted by RedDog382
Previous owner of my 382 had it rigged with 950 h.p. blower motors through Bravo drives and ran 114 m.p.h. He went through 4 sets of drives in less than 75 hours.

Yeah, I blew thru two IMCO Extreme's in 20 hrs last year on 720 hp blower motors... junk.

Hoping for better luck with the BMax HT's. But from what I've seen having the front covers off, the upper gears are pretty stout.

axapowell 06-09-2006 09:28 AM

Re: 118 mph Formula 382
 
This boat has been for sale on and off for 2 plus years. I was going to buy it when I was looking, but there have been some engine issues. Blown head gasket and the motors never ran right. Some engine builder in Cali did the power, but the owner NEVER got it right. He (the builder) wanted $5k plus expenses to come onsite to set it up. I tried to make a deal with the builder to take the power back in trade and get me something a little less agressive and throw me some cash. It was my understanding that they put $120 into the power. He was also throwing in a set of XR drives with the package. Too many ifs, ands, and buts.

I backed out. Good looking boat though. Someone will enjoy it and the repair bills!!

Dave

dockrocker 06-09-2006 09:44 AM

Re: 118 mph Formula 382
 
How'd you like to change the plugs in here! :eek:

http://www.everyboat.com/uploads/c/i/o/3715.jpg

Magicfloat 06-09-2006 10:11 AM

Re: 118 mph Formula 382
 
Isn't that the boat that went to CA a couple years ago and is now painted silver?

Mac 06-09-2006 10:50 AM

Re: 118 mph Formula 382
 

Originally Posted by t500hps

It better have one bad ass tow rig, they dont make a Formula that runs anywhere near that speed!

CMG 06-09-2006 03:18 PM

Re: 118 mph Formula 382
 
the guy is taking a serious beating on that boat, its priced as though it had 525s. still wouldn't touch it!

PhantomChaos 06-09-2006 05:39 PM

Re: 118 mph Formula 382
 
I believe it......I get +120mph with 1150's and regular gas :D :D :D

CAFormula1 06-09-2006 07:16 PM

Re: 118 mph Formula 382
 
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That ad is a couple of years old???

I bought the boat then for $125,000...it did have some engine issues (a couple of fouled plugs) GT Gary Teague built the engines..they had 9 hrs (module verified) when i got it...Gary tuned them and have had no issues since (great engines)...had a shifting issue and blew one drive...waiting on quote on the new HT's from Dean.

The boat has been quite a project...it's almost there

It'l do a 100 pretty easy but I have not pushed it much beyond that??...but 118..that's some of that good old boy BS!!

like Nort's 120/1150 pump gas crap

KL

Pantera1 06-09-2006 07:49 PM

Re: 118 mph Formula 382
 
man I LOVE that paint scheme :drink:

PhantomChaos 06-09-2006 07:56 PM

Re: 118 mph Formula 382
 
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Kev

It will never be done until you change out those stupid yellowing switches!!! :D :D :D :D :drink: :drink: Oh, and what are you saying about my boat's speed? :evilb: :evilb: :D

Magicfloat 06-09-2006 08:35 PM

Re: 118 mph Formula 382
 
Beautiful boat!

Panther 06-10-2006 06:16 PM

Re: 118 mph Formula 382
 

Originally Posted by CAFormula1
...had a shifting issue and blew one drive...waiting on quote on the new HT's from Dean.

Did you blow the upper or the lower?

CAFormula1 06-11-2006 05:13 PM

Re: 118 mph Formula 382
 
lower...plus grenaded lower case...I am now on a shedule to replace lower bearings and inspect gears every 50 hrs.

KL

Jassman 06-11-2006 06:46 PM

Re: 118 mph Formula 382
 
What about putting some asd-7,there is another Formula with a set on and from what Rik told me the set up sounds familar to yours, blower motors. A little over 100 hours and not a problem. Jeff

BTW, that boats paint job looks awesome, very clean, very classy. :cool:

Panther 06-11-2006 07:21 PM

Re: 118 mph Formula 382
 

Originally Posted by CAFormula1
lower...plus grenaded lower case...I am now on a shedule to replace lower bearings and inspect gears every 50 hrs.

KL

Considering the weight, length and power in the boat that's not bad at all. :cool:

FeverMike 06-11-2006 07:54 PM

Re: 118 mph Formula 382
 
Love the Formula so don't get me wrong but with that power it really should be going a lot faster. For example in the lastest Hotboat mag I saw the 382 (38') Formula went 81mph with twin Merc 600's. The same day same test the 42 Fountain with twin Merc HP525's went 84mph. The test article specs show both boats cruise at 4000rpm at about the same speed. A 42 Fountain with 600's will run 100+. What would a 38 Cigarette with 525's and 600's run? I guess around 85 with the 525's and 93 with the 600's?
I know with twin 525's the 382 Formula goes around 78mph so compare that to other 38+ foot boats.

Panther 06-11-2006 08:30 PM

Re: 118 mph Formula 382
 

Originally Posted by FeverMike
Love the Formula so don't get me wrong but with that power it really should be going a lot faster. For example in the lastest Hotboat mag I saw the 382 (38') Formula went 81mph with twin Merc 600's. The same day same test the 42 Fountain with twin Merc HP525's went 84mph. The test article specs show both boats cruise at 4000rpm at about the same speed. A 42 Fountain with 600's will run 100+. What would a 38 Cigarette with 525's and 600's run? I guess around 85 with the 525's and 93 with the 600's?
I know with twin 525's the 382 Formula goes around 78mph so compare that to other 38+ foot boats.

May have the speed but doubt the ride is as comfortable as the formula. Two very different boats IMO.

FeverMike 06-11-2006 08:44 PM

Re: 118 mph Formula 382
 
The 42 Fountain has more length than the 38 Formula. The Formula has a huge swim platform too. At the water line the Fountain is a good 3-4 feet longer.
Slow does not mean smoother ride.

RedDog382 06-11-2006 09:28 PM

Re: 118 mph Formula 382
 

Originally Posted by FeverMike
The 42 Fountain has more length than the 38 Formula. Slow does not mean smoother ride.

I have been in both. The Formula will ride better in any conditions and is more comfortable at any speed. I'll take that over top end speed anytime.

What does a '42 Fountain weigh?

FeverMike 06-11-2006 10:30 PM

Re: 118 mph Formula 382
 

Originally Posted by RedDog382
I have been in both. The Formula will ride better in any conditions and is more comfortable at any speed. I'll take that over top end speed anytime.

What does a '42 Fountain weigh?

More than a 38 Formula...around 11k. I'd still take the 42 Fountain any day or a 38 Cigarette even at cruise!

FeverMike 06-12-2006 03:34 AM

Re: 118 mph Formula 382
 

Originally Posted by Panther
How much to these boats weigh? Since the new BMax HT's are warrantied up to 950 hp on a 15K lb. boat I'd be curious to see as well! :cool:

Advertised weihgt is 10,400lbs

Panther 06-12-2006 08:00 AM

Re: 118 mph Formula 382
 

Originally Posted by FeverMike
More than a 38 Formula...around 11k. I'd still take the 42 Fountain any day or a 38 Cigarette even at cruise!

Fountain has a pad keel and flatter bottom. The Formula has a deeper V and higher sides.

I've been in both too. I'd take the Formula on a rough day and the Fountain when it's calm.

Formula Outlaw 06-12-2006 08:56 AM

Re: 118 mph Formula 382
 

Originally Posted by Rare Breed
It better have one bad ass tow rig, they dont make a Formula that runs anywhere near that speed!


Did you catch the article on the 382 that did the Arneson swap out, it was running 115 with ease.....:drink:

BajaRunner 06-12-2006 09:07 AM

Re: 118 mph Formula 382
 

Originally Posted by Panther
Fountain has a pad keel and flatter bottom. The Formula has a deeper V and higher sides.

I've been in both too. I'd take the Formula on a rough day and the Fountain when it's calm.

Im just curious, as i havent been in both of the above boats. How would a 36 Baja Outlaw's ride compare to those?

Panther 06-12-2006 09:37 AM

Re: 118 mph Formula 382
 

Originally Posted by BajaRunner
Im just curious, as i havent been in both of the above boats. How would a 36 Baja Outlaw's ride compare to those?

Sorry, I'm not sure. I haven't had a chance to ride in one. :confused:

AIR TIME 06-12-2006 09:39 AM

Re: 118 mph Formula 382
 
abouy the same as the formula a friend had 2 382 race set ups 525s mid 80s . road nice in the rough,thought the baja did too 36 24 degree hull.

FeverMike 06-12-2006 09:45 AM

Re: 118 mph Formula 382
 
Me neither, have not been in a 36 Baja. I would guess since the bottom is simple it would be easy to drive and probably pretty smooth.
Panther don't both boats have a 23 degree bottom? Yes the Fountain has a pad but with the longer nose the Fountain could cut down and span some of the rough stuff pretty good. Back in 2000 when I was an APBA inspector I was on flag duty in the Formula pace boat. It was a 382. It ran good but was a little slow with HP500's back then. 75 was about all it would do and it knocked us around pretty good at times.

Panther 06-12-2006 10:20 AM

Re: 118 mph Formula 382
 

Originally Posted by FeverMike
Me neither, have not been in a 36 Baja. I would guess since the bottom is simple it would be easy to drive and probably pretty smooth.
Panther don't both boats have a 23 degree bottom? Yes the Fountain has a pad but with the longer nose the Fountain could cut down and span some of the rough stuff pretty good. Back in 2000 when I was an APBA inspector I was on flag duty in the Formula pace boat. It was a 382. It ran good but was a little slow with HP500's back then. 75 was about all it would do and it knocked us around pretty good at times.

The Fountain running surface (pad) is probably more like 26-27*. Pads are great for speed but sacrafice a little comfort.

I'm not saying one is better than the other, it's just a matter of personal preference. If I wanted to take my buddies out and go fast I would take the Fountain. If I wanted to take the wife and her friends out I would take the Formula.

When I'm out in my 80+ mph Apache and it it's rough I seem to catch up and run with all the 100 mph boats. :eek: :drink:

FeverMike 06-12-2006 10:35 AM

Re: 118 mph Formula 382
 

Originally Posted by Panther
The Fountain running surface (pad) is probably more like 26-27*. Pads are great for speed but sacrafice a little comfort.

I'm not saying one is better than the other, it's just a matter of personal preference. If I wanted to take my buddies out and go fast I would take the Fountain. If I wanted to take the wife and her friends out I would take the Formula.

When I'm out in my 80+ mph Apache and it it's rough I seem to catch up and run with all the 100 mph boats. :eek: :drink:

Panther I am not say one is better than the other either, just a friendly conversation...glad your cool that way too as some get REALLY bent outta shape about things like this.


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